Jimbo's first trial flight (2)..(EGNF)

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Jimbo's first trial flight (2)..(EGNF)

Postby Jimbo » Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:50 pm

Some more pics of my great day out for you all...

Dont worry Mark, this is the last thread on this ;D

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And my certificate, and im sure to return, im very sure...



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I wish to thank you all for looking at my pics. :D

James :) ;)
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Re: Jimbo's first trial flight (2)..(EGNF)

Postby C » Sun Jul 31, 2005 3:09 pm


Dont worry Mark, this is the last thread on this ;D



Shame! ;) ;D Lol!

Looks like a nice little airfield. Seems on of the first former JEFTS (Joint Elementary Flying Training School) Firefly's is in the first shot... :)
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Re: Jimbo's first trial flight (2)..(EGNF)

Postby Jimbo » Sun Jul 31, 2005 3:56 pm

MMMMmmmmh pitty i didn't have any more  ::) ;D

Well im gettin another booked... ;D


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Re: Jimbo's first trial flight (2)..(EGNF)

Postby beaky » Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:07 am

Outstanding! You are now officially no longer a "normal" person-you have fallen under The Spell...
 Keep up that enthusiastic momentum, and before you know it, you'll be soloing!! :)
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Re: Jimbo's first trial flight (2)..(EGNF)

Postby Fozzer » Mon Aug 01, 2005 2:41 pm

Hi Jimbo, my old Mate... ;D...!

Supercalifragilisticexpialidocous... ;D... ;D... ;D...!

Glad the flight went well, ( I knew it would.. ;)...).... ;D...!

Now you can see why I love the little Cessna's....
...instead of those daft shiny cigar tubes with jet engines and parents with their screaming kids... ;)...!

I can tell from your post that you thoroughly enjoyed the experience, the flight simulator can never quite give you the feeling of being in a REAL aeroplane, experiencing the various g-forces and observing to scenery all around you passing by.....ever so slowly!... ;D...LOL...!
...and what about all those fluffy clouds...and diving through holes in them... 8)...!
You will have noticed a tip I got from good-old Hagar....not having to use the rudder pedals when gently banking...(special ailerons on the wings!), just use the yoke...easy-peasy.... ;D...!
Did you notice the similarity with the gauges and radios on the real plane....exactly the same as the sim...!

If you are familiar with your local county, it's fun using known landmarks to pick your way around, while watching your compass bearings... 8)...!

There you go then Jimbo, I'm glad I helped to convert you to the joys of General Aviation and meeting a merry band of Private Pilots, with the help of Mr. Cessna and his lovely 152's.... ;)... ;D...!

Cheers Jimbo...
...until the next trip above the clouds... 8)...!

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Re: Jimbo's first trial flight (2)..(EGNF)

Postby C » Mon Aug 01, 2005 2:54 pm

not having to use the rudder pedals when gently banking...(special ailerons on the wings!), just use the yoke...easy-peasy.... ;D...!


Progressionist, out of balance flying techniques! :o ;) ;D
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Re: Jimbo's first trial flight (2)..(EGNF)

Postby Fozzer » Mon Aug 01, 2005 3:16 pm


Progressionist, out of balance flying techniques! :o ;) ;D



;)... ;)... ;)...>>>

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Re: Jimbo's first trial flight (2)..(EGNF)

Postby Hagar » Mon Aug 01, 2005 3:23 pm

Hang on a mo Paul. I don't remember giving anyone advice on flying. Not sure I've ever sat in a Cessna of any type, let alone flown in one. Most aircraft with conventional aerofoil sections have differential ailerons but the ones I'm used to (Tiger Moth, Chipmunk etc) need rudder for turns.

Well done Jimbo old chap, :D
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Re: Jimbo's first trial flight (2)..(EGNF)

Postby Fozzer » Mon Aug 01, 2005 3:35 pm

Hang on a mo Paul. I don't remember giving anyone advice on flying. Not sure I've ever sat in a Cessna of any type, let alone flown in one. Most aircraft with conventional aerofoil sections have differential ailerons but the ones I'm used to (Tiger Moth, Chipmunk etc) need rudder for turns.

Well done Jimbo old chap, :D


Hi Hagar....!

I remember mentioning to the instructor that I was able to gently bank the aircraft and maintain the slip ball in the centre without excessive use of the rudder pedals....
He confirmed it...
"All to do with the design of the ailerons on the small Cessna 150/152's", he said...

I mentioned it to you when I returned, and you seemed familiar with it, and  posted a link to a site explaining the arrangement, which I found very useful... ;)...!

Probably explains why the Cessna 152 is used as an excellent, safe, easy-to-fly trainer... ;D...!

Paul.....

Tiger Moth...now that's a different kettle of fish....;)...;D...!
LOL...!

P.S. It is interesting to note that on the Cessna 152's in the Simulator it is necessary to use the rudder to keep the slip-ball centered while banking.....but in the REAL Cessna it is not so vital because of the realistic ailerons working in a REAL airflow, and the aircraft can be gently banked with the feet off the pedals...!
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Re: Jimbo's first trial flight (2)..(EGNF)

Postby Hagar » Mon Aug 01, 2005 3:45 pm

Ah, all high-wing aircraft have a certain natural stability. This is due to the low CofG which makes it act a bit like a pendulum. Without getting too technical, differential movement is used to counteract the drag of the down-going aileron. This would make it yaw in the opposite direction to what you intended. It's not a new idea nor restricted to the modern Cessna trainers. Most light aircraft have aileron differential. On the good old Tiger Moth the "down" aileron actually comes back to neutral on full throw.

Some sport R/C models have no rudder at all but are quite capable of being flown smoothly & even simple aerobatics. They're flown with aileron & elevator.
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Re: Jimbo's first trial flight (2)..(EGNF)

Postby Fozzer » Mon Aug 01, 2005 3:54 pm

Ah, all high-wing aircraft have a certain natural stability. This is due to the low CofG which makes it act a bit like a pendulum.


Excellent, Doug....

You know me...
I'm all for a bit of stability....
......especially where the old pendulum is concerned... ;)...!

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Re: Jimbo's first trial flight (2)..(EGNF)

Postby Hagar » Mon Aug 01, 2005 3:59 pm

Excellent, Doug....

You know me...
I'm all for a bit of stability....
......especially where the old pendulum is concerned... ;)...!

LOL... ;D...!

Cheers Doug...!

...ya gotta larf... ;D...!

LOL ;D

If I remember correctly you asked about aileron differential. I posted a link to a model site showing how it worked. I never give advice on flying. Best to leave that to the experts. ;)

PS. Jimbo. Listen to your instructor, not us lot.
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Re: Jimbo's first trial flight (2)..(EGNF)

Postby C » Mon Aug 01, 2005 4:00 pm

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Re: Jimbo's first trial flight (2)..(EGNF)

Postby C » Mon Aug 01, 2005 4:02 pm

Eeek - look at all those smillies! I must be turning into a mini-Foz! ;) ;D
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Re: Jimbo's first trial flight (2)..(EGNF)

Postby Fozzer » Mon Aug 01, 2005 4:20 pm

Eeek - look at all those smilies! I must be turning into a mini-Foz! ;) ;D


LOL...!

I am an excellent "Trainer" in the selective use of smilies for all occasions...!
...makes posting fun...and relays your true feelings...:P...!
LOL...:D...!

Paul....always up for a laugh... 8)...!

Jimbo...observe Fozzers tips...you will be safe...trust me...;)...!
LOL...!


P.S.  What is the last craft in Jimbo's shots...looks like it is fitted with a Volkswagen engine...?
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