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Re: More Tu-160.

Postby Ghostrider114 » Mon Jun 25, 2007 3:15 pm

Exeption: AK-47?


Nope.

http://198.144.2.125/MG42/FULL/STG-44%201.jpg

(First modern assault rifle. Now guess who invented and used it...)


the Sturmgewehr and the AK-47 are two completely different weapons, although the two were both gas operated and look similar, the machinery is completely different inside, in fact Kalashnikov himself has said that the AK is not based on the StG44
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK-47
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MP44
try to do research before you make assumptions
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Re: More Tu-160.

Postby JSpahn » Mon Jun 25, 2007 3:41 pm

How about the B-29direct rip off

Or the bigger useless space shuttle

There has been some direct, lets not forget.
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Re: More Tu-160.

Postby SkyNoz » Tue Jun 26, 2007 2:24 am

The tupelov is more complex, twice as fast and holds a lot more payload than the B-1. The B-1 was introduced in 1986, the Tupelov in 1987. I doubt you can call it a "copy" as such (its a bit hard to copy a complete aircraft within a year  :P)

As for Russians copying technology, Russian fighters have had 3D jet vectoring for decades before the US even attempted 2D thrust vectoring, I wonder who's copying?  :P

By the way, that first and last shots are absolutely stunning!

Cheers


It may not be a direct copy, but sure is based on the first produced and designed aircraft. Russians designs have always had direct relation or exact copy as US aircraft. Take for example the B-29. I wouldn't say that the Russians had 3D thrust vectoring for a decade but several years, and still none actual model that's in production suppling any air force. Actually I can find evidence to back my self up to say the su-37 project was canceled due to lack of funding. Which was the only aircraft to use "3D thrust vectoring".
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Re: More Tu-160.

Postby ATI_7500 » Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:23 am

Mhmm, MP44, But which one of either is more widely used? ;)


The russian copy of it.

I wouldn't use an AK for long-range (>250m) combat anyways. Gets quite inaccurate.
Nice thing about it is that you practically don't have to clean it.
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Re: More Tu-160.

Postby Mees » Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:03 am

What would you use then?
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Re: More Tu-160.

Postby ATI_7500 » Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:35 am

What would you use then?


G-36, of course.

Lighter, smaller, still easy to maintain, more accurate, better aiming devices and - most important- also usable for left-handed people.
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Re: More Tu-160.

Postby Harold » Thu Jun 28, 2007 3:01 pm

Bjorn, your only 21 ... have you been in the army yet? Or fired any one of those things?

I realize I'm out on a ledge here ::)
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Re: More Tu-160.

Postby ATI_7500 » Thu Jun 28, 2007 4:15 pm

Bjorn, your only 21 ... have you been in the army yet? Or fired any one of those things?


Aye.

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Re: More Tu-160.

Postby Harold » Thu Jun 28, 2007 4:21 pm

OK then ... sorry mate. I just thought you were bragging ;)

P.S. I was a UN peacekeeper in Bosnia and actually fired a AK-47. Nice gun ... but don't tell anyone ::)
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Re: More Tu-160.

Postby ATI_7500 » Thu Jun 28, 2007 4:35 pm

P.S. I was a UN peacekeeper in Bosnia and actually fired a AK-47. Nice gun ... but don't tell anyone ::)


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Re: More Tu-160.

Postby M.R.Maiornikov » Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:32 pm

is this the alphasim version? The screens look really nice.
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