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Postby A-10 » Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:30 pm

does anyone know how to write a country song? why am I asking... I have the talent to sing but that is just my opinion, no one has really ever heard me sing so this is why I'm asking. Also I like music a lot that's another reason why I'm asking the question (does anyone know how to write a country song)
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Re: song writing

Postby A-10 » Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:39 pm

some posts would be great

would anyone have so much as the slightest clue as of how to start out with writing a song?
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Re: song writing

Postby A-10 » Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:53 pm

hmmm.... this topic is boring because no one is answering
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Re: song writing

Postby B-Valvs » Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:57 pm

You have to be patient. You didn't even wait half an hour and this is a......strange question that really doesn't ahve a right answer.

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Re: song writing

Postby WebbPA » Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:57 pm

You just have to know the basic themes (Link):

Country music revolves around three themes:

    * My girlfriend/man left me
    * I have a gun
    * I am going to shoot my girlfriend/man

Later variations and extensions on the themes have appeared (the government is trying to take my gun, the government arrested me for shooting my girlfriend/man and is how going to execute me and/or take my gun, the government took my girlfriend/man away from me and I've lost my gun, etc.)

Other topics are sometimes woven around this main theme, like:

    * Cowboys are awesome
    * Commies shot my legs off
    * Drinking
    * My woman is too fat
    * Country music is awesome
    * Country music used to be awesome until the commies ruined it and shot my legs off.


It helps to have a dog and a truck in there.
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Re: song writing

Postby B-Valvs » Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:02 pm

[quote]You just have to know the basic themes (Link):

[quote]Country music revolves around three themes:
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Re: song writing

Postby patchz » Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:28 pm

[color=#000000]To be the serious side of this discussion, there is no prerequisite, but it is likely most hits did have some of the mentioned topics. I'm sure I could find a vast number of tunes that did not mention any of the above, yet did well.

As to knowing how to, I can't say that I do. But I have written a few. I even sent some to publishers in Nashville a few years ago, but without any luck. I did get some positive feedback from a couple of publishers who said it was not what they were looking for at the time, but to keep sending material. Based on my experiences and knowledge, I would say you almost HAVE to go to Nashville and go door to door. Some people did it for years and never got past the lobby. Due to life, I was unable to continue and lost interest after a while. I still write, but no longer try to get anything published. I do have a couple that I think would do well if recorded by a known or up and coming artist. Having said all that, I have always heard, not that it's true mind you, but "you have to have lived it". My advice to a wannabe songwriter, is to buy a book, tape, or DVD on the subject by someone that has 'made' it. There are several out there. And join NSAI, Nashville Songwriters Association International. I was a member for a couple of years and they offer a lot of free services and put on clinics every year. If someone is serious about it, it is well worth joining.
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Re: song writing

Postby WebbPA » Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:05 pm

The perfect country-western song

Well, a friend of mine named Steve Goodman wrote that song
And he told me it was the perfect country-western song
I wrote him back a letter and told him it was NOT the perfect country-western song because he hadn't said anything at all about
mama, or trains, or trucks, or prison, or gettin' drunk.
Well, he sat down and wrote another verse to the song and he sent it to me
And after reading it, I realized that my friend had written the perfect country-western song.
And I felt obliged to include it on this album. The last verse goes like this here:

Well, I was drunk the day my Mom got outta prison.
And I went to pick her up in the rain.
But, before I could get to the station in my pickup truck
She got runned over by a damned old train.
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Re: song writing

Postby patchz » Thu Jan 07, 2010 4:23 am

The perfect country-western song

Well, a friend of mine named Steve Goodman wrote that song
And he told me it was the perfect country-western song
I wrote him back a letter and told him it was NOT the perfect country-western song because he hadn't said anything at all about
mama, or trains, or trucks, or prison, or gettin' drunk.
Well, he sat down and wrote another verse to the song and he sent it to me
And after reading it, I realized that my friend had written the perfect country-western song.
And I felt obliged to include it on this album. The last verse goes like this here:

Well, I was drunk the day my Mom got outta prison.
And I went to pick her up in the rain.
But, before I could get to the station in my pickup truck
She got runned over by a damned old train.


Dang, I meant to mention that. Oh well, at least you covered it.
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Re: song writing

Postby Fozzer » Thu Jan 07, 2010 5:25 am

Country Music.... :o....

.....you have to live in the South of the U.S.A. to appreciate it....

..anywhere else, and its a definite no-no!.... :-[...!

...trust me!.... ;)...!

We can soon get fed up with knowing that your Dog has just died, and your Wife has run away....and you are unhappy...;)...!

Paul....from Bach to Rock..and Bach again... ;D... ;D...!

Some of my Kit...none of which is used to play "Country Music".... ;D....>>>

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Re: song writing

Postby Hagar » Thu Jan 07, 2010 5:34 am

Nothing wrong with country music. Without it there would be no Rock 'n Roll, no Beatles, no Stones & no rock music as we know it today.

does anyone know how to write a country song? why am I asking... I have the talent to sing but that is just my opinion, no one has really ever heard me sing so this is why I'm asking

I don't understand why you need to write it yourself. Most people start off by singing other people's songs. There's literally 1,000s to choose from.
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Re: song writing

Postby Fozzer » Thu Jan 07, 2010 5:40 am

Nothing wrong with country music. Without it there would be no Rock 'n Roll, no Beatles, no Stones & no rock music as we know it today.

does anyone know how to write a country song? why am I asking... I have the talent to sing but that is just my opinion, no one has really ever heard me sing so this is why I'm asking

I don't understand why you need to write it yourself. Most people start off by singing other people's songs. There's literally 1,000s to choose from.


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1,000's of Country songs is a 1,000 Country songs too many!...;)...!

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Re: song writing

Postby cspyro21 » Thu Jan 07, 2010 5:47 am

Well I'm not claiming to be an expert on songwriting, because frankly I'm not. :P ;D However, my friend and I are working on a few songs, and we've found that a lot of it is life experience and emotions felt...sometimes it helps to "just write" and see what comes out. :)
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Re: song writing

Postby Hagar » Thu Jan 07, 2010 5:47 am

Nothing wrong with country music. Without it there would be no Rock 'n Roll, no Beatles, no Stones & no rock music as we know it today.

does anyone know how to write a country song? why am I asking... I have the talent to sing but that is just my opinion, no one has really ever heard me sing so this is why I'm asking

I don't understand why you need to write it yourself. Most people start off by singing other people's songs. There's literally 1,000s to choose from.


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1,000's of Country songs is a 1,000 Country songs too many!...;)...!

Paul.... :P.... ;D...!

Most rock music has country roots. I don't believe you never play any country songs. :P
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Re: song writing

Postby Fozzer » Thu Jan 07, 2010 5:57 am

Nothing wrong with country music. Without it there would be no Rock 'n Roll, no Beatles, no Stones & no rock music as we know it today.

does anyone know how to write a country song? why am I asking... I have the talent to sing but that is just my opinion, no one has really ever heard me sing so this is why I'm asking

I don't understand why you need to write it yourself. Most people start off by singing other people's songs. There's literally 1,000s to choose from.


Doug..

1,000's of Country songs is a 1,000 Country songs too many!...;)...!

Paul.... :P.... ;D...!

Most rock music has country roots. I don't believe you never play any country songs. :P


Most of my music I play is based on the sequence of notes written by the Masters...J. S. Bach and his forebears....which is now converted into (Western) Rock Music, etc... ;)...!

Pachebel's "Canon"...."Hotel California"!...;)...!

Paul..."...you can check out any time...but you can never leave..."... ;D...!

American "Country Songs", I avoid...trust me... ;).. ;)...!

Including the Cowboy hats the and spurs...and the Yee-Haaa!... ;D...!

..... ;D....!
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