Gulf Oil Rig explosion who do you think should be blamed? or not.

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Re: Gulf Oil Rig explosion who do you think should be blamed? or not.

Postby machineman9 » Tue Jun 08, 2010 7:39 pm

I blame the Big Bang or whatever universe creation theory you believe in... With nothing there, there's no oil!


Any idea what's going on with the oil currently or when they stop the leak? Are they trying to collect it up off the water and sell it on again?


I hope this sparks some more funding to nuclear fusion power and I hope one day we'll be able to survive off bio-oil and by replacing our petrol with hydrogen (to burn in the car, not to convert to electricity because I hate electric cars).
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Re: Gulf Oil Rig explosion who do you think should be blamed? or not.

Postby Travis » Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:16 am

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Re: Gulf Oil Rig explosion who do you think should be blamed? or not.

Postby Hagar » Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:58 am

BP is responsible (and should be held as such) for the atrocity in the Gulf.

I must be missing something here. I understand that BP leased the rig from a company named Transocean which employs the operating personnel. Why is nobody blaming them for this disaster? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transocean
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Re: Gulf Oil Rig explosion who do you think should be blamed? or not.

Postby expat » Wed Jun 09, 2010 5:43 am

BP is responsible (and should be held as such) for the atrocity in the Gulf.

I must be missing something here. I understand that BP leased the rig from a company named Transocean which employs the operating personnel. Why is nobody blaming them for this disaster? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transocean



Because sadly American companies are never at fault and rarely held to book. They hide behind lawyers and PR until the problem is forgotten about. I am not trying to inflame our American members, but just look at history, starting with Bhopal maybe.

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Re: Gulf Oil Rig explosion who do you think should be blamed? or not.

Postby DaveSims » Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:06 am

Something that has been going around on facebook, but pretty well sums up my thoughts on the subject.

Offshore drilling...When a plane crashes we don't ban flying, when a bridge collapses we dont stop building them, when someone shoots another person we dont ban guns, so why should we stop drilling for oil when one accident takes place? Let's learn from the mistakes and move on. 

This was an accident, and yes a tragic one that will take time to clean up.  But the world will go on, civilization will go on.  All of those against drilling for oil, why not put your money where your mouth is, and stop using products produced by it.  Stop driving, as cars use gas, stop using anything plastic (including your computer), as it is made of hydrocarbons.  I see a lot of people who argue against ever drilling for oil, but few who will actually follow through.  I'll tell you the one thing that would make the world a better place, stop listening to the media political hype, and make your own decisions.   
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Re: Gulf Oil Rig explosion who do you think should be blamed? or not.

Postby machineman9 » Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:10 am

Offshore drilling...When a plane crashes we don't ban flying, when a bridge collapses we dont stop building them, when someone shoots another person we dont ban guns, so why should we stop drilling for oil when one accident takes place? Let's learn from the mistakes and move on.

Murphy's Law at play again?

Not really many small problems, now a big one. In contrast, aviation disasters and shootings etc have been relatively minor but more of them. I'm not saying they're 'nothing' but it could be a lot lot worse.

It's when you don't have any problems that you know you've got a problem brewing.
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Re: Gulf Oil Rig explosion who do you think should be blamed? or not.

Postby Steve M » Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:54 pm

Another outlook..
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Video is hard to hear, I read the text.
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Re: Gulf Oil Rig explosion who do you think should be blamed? or not.

Postby Steve M » Wed Jun 09, 2010 7:22 pm

BP is responsible (and should be held as such) for the atrocity in the Gulf.

I must be missing something here. I understand that BP leased the rig from a company named Transocean which employs the operating personnel. Why is nobody blaming them for this disaster? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transocean


This article is for Doug and Matt...
If I lease a car and let some else drive it, I am still responsable for any damages the car incurs..


http://motherjones.com/blue-marble/2010 ... nna-happen
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Re: Gulf Oil Rig explosion who do you think should be blamed? or not.

Postby expat » Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:17 am

BP is responsible (and should be held as such) for the atrocity in the Gulf.

I must be missing something here. I understand that BP leased the rig from a company named Transocean which employs the operating personnel. Why is nobody blaming them for this disaster? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transocean


This article is for Doug and Matt...
If I lease a car and let some else drive it, I am still responsable for any damages the car incurs..


http://motherjones.com/blue-marble/2010 ... nna-happen


A question back at you, if you lease a car and then during the lease, the leasing company damage it, are you still responsible?

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Re: Gulf Oil Rig explosion who do you think should be blamed? or not.

Postby aussiewannabe » Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:00 am

I'll tell you the one thing that would make the world a better place, stop listening to the media political hype, and make your own decisions.

Well put, sir!
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Re: Gulf Oil Rig explosion who do you think should be blamed? or not.

Postby Fozzer » Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:10 pm

Latest scare in the oil spill saga:

Workers detailed to clean up the oil from the beaches have been instructed to wear Hard Hats for fear that oil may possibly fall out of the sky onto their heads and cause serious injuries*.

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Insurance companies will not accept liability for such probable occurrences.

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(The ongoing fascination with wearing Hard Hats!)... ::)...!

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Re: Gulf Oil Rig explosion who do you think should be blamed? or not.

Postby expat » Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:50 pm


(The ongoing fascination with wearing Hard Hats!)... ::)...!


Must be a joke in their about helmets too, but this is a family forum, so I will get my coat and leave before I am told to ;D

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Re: Gulf Oil Rig explosion who do you think should be blamed? or not.

Postby hhomebrewer » Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:30 pm

OSHA and sundry other gummint organizations always require hardhats in sensitive zones. It's part of the PPE that's usually more trouble than it's worth...
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Re: Gulf Oil Rig explosion who do you think should be blamed? or not.

Postby Steve M » Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:28 pm

BP is responsible (and should be held as such) for the atrocity in the Gulf.

I must be missing something here. I understand that BP leased the rig from a company named Transocean which employs the operating personnel. Why is nobody blaming them for this disaster? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transocean


This article is for Doug and Matt...
If I lease a car and let some else drive it, I am still responsable for any damages the car incurs..


http://motherjones.com/blue-marble/2010 ... nna-happen


A question back at you, if you lease a car and then during the lease, the leasing company damage it, are you still responsible?

Matt



Thats a good back atcha reply.  ;) This will be my last reply to this thread because it's a tad too passionate to me, being a fan of sport fishing.
Who is in denial? The Brits say not us. The Americans say not us. Transoceans parent company is not even U.S. owned anymore.
Blame put aside, This is a very huge problem.   :-/
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Re: Gulf Oil Rig explosion who do you think should be blamed? or not.

Postby DaveSims » Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:32 pm

I've hit my head more while wearing a hard hat than without, namely because you get used to how tall you are, then wear a helmet that adds 6-8 inches.  You walk into all kinds of stuff.
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