Glad you commented on this Matt. I haven't watched the video but can imagine what it's like. Someone on this forum was recently shouted down for mentioned not going in for tributes but he was only telling the truth. That is not our way. I think you'll find that patriotism is alive & well in this country although it tends to be understated. We respect our servicemen & women just as much as any other country & weep when they are killed or injured. We just don't make a song & dance about it.
Did anyone remember that yesterday was Battle of Britain Day? I haven't seen a post about it on this forum, except for in the Photos section. I think that goes to prove my point.
Yes you are right, but I think the stiff upper lip does get in the way sometimes. I personally don't go in for online tributes/grieving, I am a very private person. I suppose that this is reflected by what you said above, though I do not in anyway stand in front of anyone else who does or criticises them for doing so.
I would just like to comment on this thread and please don't misunderstand me in any way, I am an ex-serviceman and did my part in the 90's, serving in two theaters..........admittedly, one was in a 4 star hotel and a sea crossing.......the difference between the army and the air force, we send our officers to do the real work. Anyway, I note that only American members have posted replies. The attitude towards the American serviceman by the American public seems to be very different to that of other nations armed forces and I am wondering why that is. In the UK, patriotic pride in the armed services is a very quiet and low key affair. Even to the point where the government will sometimes not have anything to do with the armed services in calibration for the fear of offending "someone"
Just a question and I am not looking to upset anyone here, but what/why/how do the US forces manage to get such patriotic feeling in it's country men?
Matt
The American public finally came to the realization that w/o these brave men and women. Without their willingness to work and risk their lives for a pittance of a wage. Without their willingness to give their very lives for our freedoms. We would not have these freedoms that so many people take for granted.
In the case of England, w/o your WWII Vets and American WWII Vets, Not to mention many other countries that sent their soldiers into the field to defeat a common foe. Instead of the Union Jack flying overhead, you'd have a Swastika.
This is why I normally don't post tributes. I forget about the disrespect that Veterans of Vietnam and any war get on these forums. I promise you I'll never post anything again.
Alpha Mike Foxtrot
No disrespect intended. This is why I usually keep my big mouth shut as I realise any comments I make will be taken the wrong way. Post as many tributes as you like. I'll keep quiet in future.
PS. Please show me where anyone has said something disrespectful in this topic.
No disrespect intended. This is why I usually keep my big mouth shut as I realise any comments I make will be taken the wrong way. Post as many tributes as you like. I'll keep quiet in future.
PS. Please show me where anyone has said something disrespectful in this topic.
The comments about WWII for one- my grandfather was there and fought for your country.
You speak of those who didn't really want to fight, but had too-
A supplemental Draft Registration that was used in case the US ran out of young men. Do you realize what this implies? The US was willing to sacrifice all it's young men for the war.
The comments on Vietnam and remarks made in the past by many other forum members just make it not worth the hassles I go through to post these things. So I simply will not bother again.
[glow=yellow,2,300]What nobody seems to mention is that many of those were ordinary people who didn't want to be there. Ordinary men & women that were called up (drafted) with no choice but to go & do as they were ordered. This is not meant to take anything away from them as they were just as brave, if not more so, as those that volunteered.[/glow]
No disrespect intended. This is why I usually keep my big mouth shut as I realise any comments I make will be taken the wrong way. Post as many tributes as you like. I'll keep quiet in future.
PS. Please show me where anyone has said something disrespectful in this topic.
The comments about WWII for one- my grandfather was there and fought for your country.
You speak of those who didn't really want to fight, but had too-
A supplemental Draft Registration that was used in case the US ran out of young men. Do you realize what this implies? The US was willing to sacrifice all it's young men for the war.
The comments on Vietnam and remarks made in the past by many other forum members just make it not worth the hassles I go through to post these things. So I simply will not bother again.
No disrespect intended. This is why I usually keep my big mouth shut as I realise any comments I make will be taken the wrong way. Post as many tributes as you like. I'll keep quiet in future.
PS. Please show me where anyone has said something disrespectful in this topic.
The comments about WWII for one- my grandfather was there and fought for your country.
You speak of those who didn't really want to fight, but had too-
A supplemental Draft Registration that was used in case the US ran out of young men. Do you realize what this implies? The US was willing to sacrifice all it's young men for the war.
The comments on Vietnam and remarks made in the past by many other forum members just make it not worth the hassles I go through to post these things. So I simply will not bother again.
Well this is what I actually said. I don't understand how anyone could take it as being disrespectful.[glow=yellow,2,300]What nobody seems to mention is that many of those were ordinary people who didn't want to be there. Ordinary men & women that were called up (drafted) with no choice but to go & do as they were ordered. This is not meant to take anything away from them as they were just as brave, if not more so, as those that volunteered.[/glow]
I don't know if your grandfather volunteered or was drafted. It doesn't really matter as I'm pretty certain he would have preferred to be somewhere else. It's politicians that make war but the ordinary people that have to go & fight their battles for them.
He was fighting for the future of the whole world, not just my country. I wonder what he & his mates would think of the mess we made of it. Before you take that as another insult, my late father-in-law was fighting alongside them & I know what he thought about it.
No disrespect intended. This is why I usually keep my big mouth shut as I realise any comments I make will be taken the wrong way. Post as many tributes as you like. I'll keep quiet in future.
PS. Please show me where anyone has said something disrespectful in this topic.
The comments about WWII for one- my grandfather was there and fought for your country.
You speak of those who didn't really want to fight, but had too-
A supplemental Draft Registration that was used in case the US ran out of young men. Do you realize what this implies? The US was willing to sacrifice all it's young men for the war.
The comments on Vietnam and remarks made in the past by many other forum members just make it not worth the hassles I go through to post these things. So I simply will not bother again.
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