Why I don't believe in ET...

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Re: Why I don't believe in ET...

Postby Hai Perso Coyone? » Fri Sep 29, 2006 11:02 am

Even if this thread does get locked...you can still unlock it can't you Kev? You're a mod right? ??? ;D
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Re: Why I don't believe in ET...

Postby Fozzer » Fri Sep 29, 2006 11:12 am

Ummm.. I guess this would be a good time to post about the UFO that I  DID "see"..



Ok.. now that it's obvious that I'm nutty.. Have at me (I can take it)..



There are two things that I know are faster than light;
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Re: Why I don't believe in ET...

Postby Hagar » Fri Sep 29, 2006 11:24 am

Theory (not "Law", but "Theory") of Relativity

Precisely. Too many people mistake theory for fact.

Who is to say that alien life is not already here? Maybe we are the aliens. :o ;)
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Re: Why I don't believe in ET...

Postby alrot » Fri Sep 29, 2006 11:27 am

I saw one ,every friday night  8)


















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Re: Why I don't believe in ET...

Postby Chris_F » Fri Sep 29, 2006 11:40 am

Einstein's tiny portion (E=MC2) of the Special Theory (not "Law", but "Theory") of Relativity and everything else aside, we won't know for sure if the speed of light is the absolute limit until we try it.
Wouldn't be the first time empirical science proved theorists wrong: at one time it was believed that an aircraft approaching Mach 1 would produce infinite drag. ...

And to wit that comparison: remember also that at one time heavier-than-air flight was considered flat-out impossible by some of the most respected scientists in the world, even after the Wright Bros. published their claims!!


The people who made those claims should have known better.  After all, humans had witnessed things traveling faster than sound and heavier than air in the sky: meteors and birds.  Dismissing something as well founded as our scientific beliefs in the speed of light as an absolute maximum speed because people in the past were wrong about similar sounding stuff is a bit premature.  In order to make a serious assault on Einstein we should at least have some observable evidence that exceeding the speed of light has occured, by some object, at some time, somewhere in the universe.  We don't.  But prior to human flight we had birds and prior to Mach 1 we had meteors.
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Re: Why I don't believe in ET...

Postby Fozzer » Fri Sep 29, 2006 11:47 am

I saw one , every Friday night  8)


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Excellent value, ALROT...;D...!

That's the time when the discussion on UFO's, Aliens, Space travel, Mr Spock, Anti-gravity, Fairies at the bottom of the garden, Rainbow treasure chests, etc, etc, suddenly becomes interesting... ;D...!

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Re: Why I don't believe in ET...

Postby Hagar » Fri Sep 29, 2006 11:49 am

............ prior to human flight we had birds and prior to Mach 1 we had meteors.

Think I understand what you're getting at but presumably if something travelled faster than light nobody could possibly see it. This could explain some of the phenomena that people are convinced they experience, including UFOs. These could also be optical illusions or pure imagination.

PS. I once saw a UFO. It was reported by many others all over the South of England. I was never satisfied by the various explanations but I never believed for one moment that it had anything to do with aliens.
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Re: Why I don't believe in ET...

Postby archamedes » Fri Sep 29, 2006 11:59 am

mans biggest achievment is to put a man on the moon, we avent even walked on mars yet, so who are we to say there is nothing out there? How can you say there is nothing interesting here for them? After all look how a baby is fascinated by everything because it doesn't know what anything is. A remote control to us is an innatible object that changes over the tv, an alien would find it a fascinating object and try to study it because it wouldn't know what it does. We think we are the dominant species on this planet and we are, but until we have seen every corner of the universe then we cant say we are the most intelligent and dominant species of the universe, because it cant be proven yet
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Re: Why I don't believe in ET...

Postby Hagar » Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:09 pm

A remote control to us is an innatible object that changes over the tv, an alien would find it a fascinating object and try to study it because it wouldn't know what it does.

I think an alien with the ability to visit this planet at will would find that very primitive technology indeed. Of course, like so many others you're assuming that aliens are similar to human beings. It's more than likely that, if such a thing exists, these alien life forms would bear no resemblance to anything we're familiar with. It's also quite likely that we wouldn't recognise one if we saw it.
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Re: Why I don't believe in ET...

Postby archamedes » Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:17 pm

However if a race of ETs had laser weapons, yet they saw a tank fire or an m16 fire, because it reacts differently would they not find it amazing? It doesn't matter that the weapons aren't as powerful as theirs but the fact that it fires bullets or shells would make it interesting to them, just as laser weapons would be interesting to us. As i have told others, our planet is a small speck in the universe, there are billions of stars and planets out there, who is to say there is nothing on them when our planet supports life? Come on we can't be the only ones. And i bet their are aliens saying the same thing as us. We can only advance in technology with the natural materials we have on this planet (Metal, fuel, oil etc...) So basically there could be some sort of super fuel on other planets which make it easier and faster to travel, but we cant prove that either way. Just like we can't prove that other races have a higher power of intelligence than us. For example it took cavemen 10,000 years to learn that if they put a sharp stone on their stick, they had a sharp stabbing weapon to hunt with. Man's intelligence in evolution took a very long time, and now we are very quickly learning new things, but still not found cures for cancer or interplanitary travel
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Re: Why I don't believe in ET...

Postby Akula. » Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:18 pm

My opinion on the matter: no fricking idea. Im too young to worry about this stuff  ;)
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Re: Why I don't believe in ET...

Postby Hagar » Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:19 pm

[quote]My opinion on the matter: no fricking idea. Im too young to worry about this stuff
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Re: Why I don't believe in ET...

Postby Wing Nut » Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:26 pm

[quote]My opinion on the matter: no fricking idea. Im too young to worry about this stuff
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Re: Why I don't believe in ET...

Postby Woodlouse2002 » Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:54 pm

It might be that we have nothing to offer any one who comes to this planet. But how are they going to know intill they've arrived?
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Re: Why I don't believe in ET...

Postby archamedes » Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:57 pm

It might be that we have nothing to offer any one who comes to this planet. But how are they going to know intill they've arrived?



just give them a tamagotchi or a playstation 2 and leave them to it
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