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Hard to belive..

Postby Politically Incorrect » Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:00 am

I would almost think you would be worried about being sued after the passengers realized this was happening!

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Re: Hard to belive..

Postby Hagar » Tue Sep 26, 2006 3:51 am

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Re: Hard to belive..

Postby Politically Incorrect » Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:30 am

Hard to belive...


I keep forgeting there are 300 different forums here at SimV ;D ;D ;D


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Re: Hard to belive..

Postby Saitek » Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:40 am

Don't want to encourage two threads but your link gave some more information.

This sounds a bit dodgy. ;)
If the pilot had returned to LAX, British Airways would been stuck for around $200,000.

The airline has vociferously denied that the decision to press on with only 3/4 of its available engines had anything to do with financial considerations. However, BA policy has since been clarified that the plane must land if it experiences an engine failure, even if those engines remaining are running just fine.
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Re: Hard to belive..

Postby Hagar » Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:51 am

Only a short time ago the captain's word was always law while an aircraft was airborne. The safety of the aircraft, passengers & fellow crew members came first and cost or inconvenience didn't come into it. This is how it should be. It all stems from our litigation society & the stupid EU legislation which if allowed to continue could easily bankrupt airlines within a very short time. (Those that aren't already bankrupt of course.)
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Re: Hard to belive..

Postby commoner » Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:53 am

...I bet this particular Captain's word was obeyed...and pretty quick........commoner ;D

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Re: Hard to belive..

Postby expat » Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:33 am

...I bet this particular Captain's word was obeyed...and pretty quick........commoner ;D

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Re: Hard to belive..

Postby Katahu » Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:09 am

You know, I was thinking how strong those engines must be if he was flying with barely 3/4 of his engines. :o
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Re: Hard to belive..

Postby xFLAMESx » Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:22 am

Y'know, it's kinda funny...
Just a week after this incident, the SAME plane flew from Singapore to London and had an oil pressure problem, with the SAME engine :-/ (Although it had been replaced) (Might've already been discussed)

You know, I was thinking how strong those engines must be if he was flying with barely 3/4 of his engines. :o

Not that I'd want to try it if I were a pilot, but apparently the 747-400 can fly on 2 engines! :o

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Re: Hard to belive..

Postby alrot » Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:37 am

After circling the Pacific for a few minutes while the captain contacted BA's control center, the crew decided to continue the 11-hour, 5,000 mile flight to Heathrow on three engines, rather than turn back and face a minimum five hour delay


Jezz  :o :o :o this is kind a sick,you know,playing with people's life Just for money.  :-/
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Re: Hard to belive..

Postby Stormtropper » Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:55 pm

There was no danger in that call...

...and the Captain did everyone a favor by still doing that flight...

...saves precious fuel, the enviroment (kerosene and nature don't mix well...), the airline money, and everyone's time...

...remember the last time your flight was delayed or cancelled...? Yeahhhh....
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Re: Hard to belive..

Postby Katahu » Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:34 pm

...remember the last time your flight was delayed or cancelled...? Yeahhhh....


I never had a delayed or cancelled flight. But when other people experienced them, it was mayhem when the passengers got pissed.
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Re: Hard to belive..

Postby H » Wed Sep 27, 2006 2:08 am

I never had a delayed or cancelled flight.
I did:

I was kicked (well, not literally) out of the baggage hold of A USAF C-130 to allow 4 emergency leaves to get home. Since they couldn't find a schedualed military flight to get me back enroute to my duty station, I was sent out of Honolulu via a commercial flight.
Nope, no screaming by me.

When I went on leave out of Gulfport, MS (I was then stationed at Biloxi), I had reserved my flight more than a month in advance. I arrived at the terminal with my ticket and found that my reserved flight out no longer existed. I had to take a different flight, changing to another in Atlanta, GA; finally, I was put on a shuttle flight (paid by the initiating airline), landing in a snowstorm at a runway a fair amount smaller (howbeit, a little closer) than originally planned. My luggage took a different route but arrived in time for me to take it right back to Mississippi with me.
I did no screaming but not the happiest in all episodes.

Basically, as long as they make it safely to their destination, the passengers are pleased. If they don't, though...
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Re: Hard to belive..

Postby Politically Incorrect » Wed Sep 27, 2006 3:07 am

I would rather be delayed or cancelled than have my life risked by a dimwit pilot or airline company trying to spare a dime ;)
And those passengers who can't understand something like that are the ones that belong to families that will be the first in line at the lawsuit hearing trying to get money for your death.
So yes in a situation like that I would much rather be delayed or wait for another flight, I like to take risks but I am not a idiot. Unfortantly too many others are.

And too think that terrorism is the main thing people fear most when flying ::)
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Re: Hard to belive..

Postby alrot » Wed Sep 27, 2006 6:12 am

I would rather be delayed or cancelled than have my life risked by a dimwit pilot or airline company trying to spare a dime ;)
And those passengers who can't understand something like that are the ones that belong to families that will be the first in line at the lawsuit hearing trying to get money for your death.
So yes in a situation like that I would much rather be delayed or wait for another flight, I like to take risks but I am not a idiot. Unfortantly too many others are.

And too think that terrorism is the main thing people fear most when flying ::)



I'm totaly agree with your opinion PI  :)
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