Odd problem after Vista SP1 install.

[grizzard]

Let the record show that Vista has not been widely accepted and is not the preferred OS of choice. Vista corpses are scattered everywhere. Granted ... XP went through it's hurdles and is now finally tuned and honed, reliable and loved. It does what you ask of it .... but Vista is yet to be proven. It may someday prove faithful and be a Lexus ... if we have the patience.  But my Chevy still gets me there!  ;D

But saying you shouldn't drive it 5 miles over the speed limit says something about it's reliability and strength. It breaks easily .... however, I'm still hoping for a brighter tomorrow ....  8-)

[reider]

Let the record show that Vista has not been widely accepted and is not the preferred OS of choice. Vista corpses are scattered everywhere. Granted ... XP went through it's hurdles and is now finally tuned and honed, reliable and loved. It does what you ask of it .... but Vista is yet to be proven. It may someday prove faithful and be a Lexus ... if we have the patience.  But my Chevy still gets me there!  ;D

But saying you shouldn't drive it 5 miles over the speed limit says something about it's reliability and strength. It breaks easily .... however, I'm still hoping for a brighter tomorrow ....  8-)

You know, you make some wild assumptions.  It started with assuming one of the 8000 series video cards was DX9 when its actually DX10.  Now this too.  Yes, some people have problems with Vista, but then so do some people with XP.  Personally I love XP but I wouldn`t use it for FSX myself, I went back for 24 hours and ditched it.  Just remember their are always going to be people saying what problems they have with Vista, you almost never get to hear how many people like it and how it runs well because people only write in when things are bad.  If XP works for you then all well and good, that does not mean its time for you to announce the death rolls of Vista!  Certainly doesn`t break here, but then I know a DX9 from a DX10 video card and know my hardware is properly matched to the software.

Reider

[grizzard]

You are right on my quick labeling the 8600 Series .... I made a quick assumption in an attempt to throw out a few suggestions for another who was having a problem without looking up the specs ... I have a 6800 in another system and that probably flashed across my mind, but I was too hasty.  Ok ... wrong.  :-[  It wouldn't be the first time though.  ;D

I think Vista will eventually run well and I do intend to stay with it as they roll out the patches. I have 2 Vista systems ... one I don't ask much of it and it does well. The other has been a pain in the rear which I could elaborate on but it isn't worth the effort. Last scenario was when I installed 4 GB of memory and it asked me to re-Activate ... and actually required me to call in by phone to get approval. No funny stuff ... all legal. I'm currently running FSX on this Vista system as well as on an XP system and the Vista hardware system has much more horsepower than my older but adequate XP system and yet I don't see any difference in the framerates nor the graphics ... so far anyway. I've had to reinstall FSX once on Vista ... but not yet on XP.

If someone can show that Vista outperforms XP in FSX I'd be interested, and would probably keep it ... if not, it'll go out on the next system build.

I do have a question though .... in what way provable would you say Vista does better than XP for FSX?  Or is it just the overall experience with Vista?  Aero, quickness, eye candy, and some nifty apps (like Snippet) are some of the features I've found that I actually DO like. I'm always open to learning more ....  :D

Enough of that .... let's go flying.  ;D

[reider]

You have a major problem here.  Unlike me you want proof of A being better than B.  What I am saying and have already said is "if A works better for you then jolly good, that is not an excuse to write B off for anyone else".  Vista works here, I do not feel a need to explain, I only have myself to answer to and my own enjoyment to fulfill.  I chose the hardware to go with the software and it does more for me than XP.  Likewise, I would not ever dream of writing XP off for other people, if it works for them then all well and good.  I know where my bread is buttered.....

Reider

[NickN]

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It's only a little bleat, but why does every upgrade we get from MS change so much that we have to scrabble for all new drivers and settings.

[grizzard]

You have a major problem here.  
Reider

Actually .... I'm not the one with a problem. I don't have a closed mind and I'm open to ideas and learning. But this is going nowhere ... end of discussion.

[macca22au]

Nick:  thanks for the insights.  In some ways I am not surprised that even MS with its huge resources cannot get an OS right on release to market.  Millions of users, applying the OS in thousands of different ways end up being the most complete array of beta testers.  As well the many programming experts outside of MS delve into new OS and try different things, and break it.   Then the hackers looking for advantage outside the law also twist and turn the innards of the system.

It is only then, really, that the weaknesses spilare fully revealed and the updates and patches begin to flow.

Still you give me hope.  You say that you only take up a new OS 1.5-2 years into its life.  In my case from your chronology I only have 1.5-2yrs to wait for Windows 7!!

[macca22au]

Sorry, but may I add to the other dispute that 8800 cards are both Dx9 and Dx10.   Just turn the Dx10 preview check box on or off, then either Dx10 or 9 is utilised.

If you have Vista!!!

[NickN]

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20 ... ivers.html



Naaaaaaaaaaa

Nvidia/Vista?

Problems???

NO WAY!

LOL



WHAT?????  Microsoft FUDGED Vista requirements for INTEL?????


http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20 ... bends.html

Say it ain't so!

Proof of Intel's involvement rests on more than Ybarra's e-mails. On February 26, 2007, general manager John Kalkman sent an e-mail discussing the changes to the "Vista Capable" definition. "In the end, we lowered the requirement to help Intel make their quarterly earnings so they could continue to sell motherboards with 915 graphics embedded. This in turn did two things: 1. Decreased focus of OEM's planning and shipping higher end graphics for Vista ready programs and 2. Reduced the focus by IHV's to ready great WHQL qualified drivers. We can see this today with Intel's inability to ship a compelling full featured 945 graphics driver for Windows Vista."

Microsoft's e-mails are a veritable goldmine of interesting information; Intel's influence on the OS qualification process is only one example.

[romax23]

hallo everybody here,

1.st: many thanks for great site and forum (i am new here)

2.nd: tip(?) for for all unsatisfied vistaSP1/nvidia users:

uninstall all rivatuners and so on..., restart and clean, install latest 174.53_vista_x64 nvidia driver and you have (after a littlebit playing with settings you like) fsx in best condition. no blackouts, no flicker, no stutters and vsync again onboard, fps round 50-60...
(nhancer64 is maybe o.k. for more fun with settings)

note: i run vista64/sp1, core2duo(3mhz), 4gb mem, new 8800gts 512mb, 2xdisplay, no overcloking

thats it!

r.

[fighter25]

Well I just got back from vacation and installed the drivers and no luck. Still flashing on and off. Should I turn everything in the Vsync section off in nHancer?

[romax23]

Hi,

i don

[fighter25]

Reinstalled FSX, looked good. Then SP1...the flashing came back!
I'm stumped. Should I talk to Microsoft?

[fighter25]

Okay problem Fixed. FSX didn't like to run on my montior's navtive resolution. Weird huh?

[romax23]

start fsx with clean fresh fsx.cfg must be eneugh, i never reinstall fsx after unsuccsessful lost-control tweaking or total crash.
(exept defrag, that i do)

r.