Blurries are driving me insane! Help please!!

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Re: Blurries are driving me insane! Help please!!

Postby Artie » Sun Mar 02, 2008 2:52 pm

Have done that, thanks.  I have
tried just about every combination
that I can think of, actually.

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Re: Blurries are driving me insane! Help please!!

Postby Artie » Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:35 pm

BTW, I would not be in the least bit surprised should we discover that nvidia shares a lot of the blame for focusing on Crysis to the near exclusion of anything else, as Nick suggested.
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Re: Blurries are driving me insane! Help please!!

Postby NickN » Sun Mar 02, 2008 4:05 pm

Art... I am totally slammed right now and can not get into a forum diagnostic

If you used my list but did not use O&O, you have a problem right there... here is a copy of a post where I answered someone about using my list with other defrag software



Use of PerfectDisk with my list:

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PD uses a "combined' algorithm of last access and another method which is why you may not have noticed anything, especially right away.. and, it takes 60-90 days (sometimes 120 days) for it to really begin to mess things up because the current time/date stamps will retain the file location integrity... when that time runs out.. PD will begin to mess up a drive with last access disabled, count on it



I dont post them warnin's fer nuthin


Unless PD changed something in their design in the last year that I did not hear about, those files on your drives are not in optimal order.. except the boot files.. and if you are judging things by the way windows boots, thats a mistake because PD will keep that in order and my edits above will also make that more efficient with PD, but the files past boot are not.


I only use O&O.




No disrespect intended and I have fixed more screwed up systems from sys admins than I can count, many of which were from people who are very well trained in the business but who are not trained to performance tune a system for graphics. At the same time they were also not in tune with hardware and how it works, and of course not in tune with how FSX works

I assure you, there is something wrong and its not FSX unless you somehow got a bad install going. There is a list at the top of the forum about installing and how to do it right with and without acceleration.

I don
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Re: Blurries are driving me insane! Help please!!

Postby Slotback » Mon Mar 03, 2008 2:43 am

[quote]I dont have time right now to get in here and correct all the misconceptions and statements

1. Quad is better than dual
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Re: Blurries are driving me insane! Help please!!

Postby Artie » Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:48 am

Just to recap, Nick..

Reset all sliders to the left, unticked all checkboxes, so all available cpu cycles would be available to graphics as much as is possible.

I then moved all sliders related to graphics all the way right.  (Actually, these were tried in varying degrees also).  I have tried these with both unlimited FPS, and 30/31 FPS.

This is all stock stuff, no add-ons.  Remember, before SP1 I had NO blurries, and on a considerably lesser system.

I would suspect that at these settings I should have very crisp graphics indeed.

Maybe my vid card is bad, except that it plays Crysis extremely well, and that takes a lot of HP.  So I am really confused by all of this.

Out of all the settings I have mucked around with, the one that gives me the most noticeable benefit has to be LOD_radius, set at 8.000000,

Thanks.

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Re: Blurries are driving me insane! Help please!!

Postby Daube » Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:03 am

[quote]Just to recap, Nick..

Reset all sliders to the left, unticked all checkboxes, so all available cpu cycles would be available to graphics as much as is possible.

I then moved all sliders related to graphics all the way right.
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Re: Blurries are driving me insane! Help please!!

Postby NickN » Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:10 am

[quote]Just to recap, Nick..

Reset all sliders to the left, unticked all checkboxes, so all available cpu cycles would be available to graphics as much as is possible.

I then moved all sliders related to graphics all the way right.
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Re: Blurries are driving me insane! Help please!!

Postby Artie » Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:27 am

Not sure how to upload pics here so I have put them on my website

https://www.discount-pool-supplies.com/ ... tings1.JPG

5 pics, numbered 1-5.

https://www.discount-pool-supplies.com/ ... ries-4.JPG

4 pics, numbered 1-4.

https://www.discount-pool-supplies.com/ ... ressp1.JPG

I hope these help.

Thanks

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Re: Blurries are driving me insane! Help please!!

Postby NickN » Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:31 am

Not sure how to upload pics here so I have put them on my website

https://www.discount-pool-supplies.com/ ... tings1.JPG

5 pics, numbered 1-5.

https://www.discount-pool-supplies.com/ ... ries-4.JPG

4 pics, numbered 1-4.

https://www.discount-pool-supplies.com/ ... ressp1.JPG

I hope these help.

Thanks

Art


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the first image ALONE tells me you are not following my guides for setup

Go back and look at my settings for nhancer and FSX

Filtering is always TRILINEAR

and do enable advanced animations.. lens flair is optional

the AV and security software can also wreak havoc.. AVG and AVAST are known for FSX issues.. and you must shut them down correctly, not just exit them. NOD32 is the only AV product that is confirmed to not cause MSFS issues. That does not mean AVG or AVAST are the problem but it is a possibility... software such as MS DEFENDER is a problem.
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Re: Blurries are driving me insane! Help please!!

Postby Artie » Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:33 am

Nick, Remember, these were general baselines and I did try with your recommended settings.  No noticeable difference between anisotropic and trilinear to speak of, if that is what you're referring to.
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Re: Blurries are driving me insane! Help please!!

Postby Artie » Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:36 am

Nick, Remember, these were general baselines and I did try with your recommended settings.  No noticeable difference between anisotropic and trilinear to speak of, if that is what you're referring to.


BTW, I posted my nHancer settings a few messages back so you could see them.

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Postby NickN » Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:41 am

[quote]Nick, Remember, these were general baselines and I did try with your recommended settings.
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Re: Blurries are driving me insane! Help please!!

Postby NickN » Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:49 am

the prcessor is not a quad, regardless 4GB of RAM?

Are you SURE the 4 slots on that motherboard will accept and run 4GB at full SPEED... I dont know about your board but the P5K Deluxe P35 has 2 slots for high speed and 2 slots for low speed if you put 4 sticks in, you get a performance LOSS and it requires 2x2GB to get full speed memory without retarded timing

Also, I assume you marked the OS if its 32bit for it to use 4GB, correct?


Another issue... did you check the BIOS to confirm there are no settings for REMAP MEMORY FOR 4G use? Some BIOS's have settings for that. Somtimes they can be related to 64bit OS only, others are for 32bit.
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Re: Blurries are driving me insane! Help please!!

Postby Artie » Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:54 am

Just to recap, Nick..

Reset all sliders to the left, unticked all checkboxes, so all available cpu cycles would be available to graphics as much as is possible.

I then moved all sliders related to graphics all the way right.  (Actually, these were tried in varying degrees also).  I have tried these with both unlimited FPS, and 30/31 FPS.

This is all stock stuff, no add-ons.  Remember, before SP1 I had NO blurries, and on a considerably lesser system.

I would suspect that at these settings I should have very crisp graphics indeed.

Maybe my vid card is bad, except that it plays Crysis extremely well, and that takes a lot of HP.  So I am really confused by all of this.

Out of all the settings I have mucked around with, the one that gives me the most noticeable benefit has to be LOD_radius, set at 8.000000,

Thanks.

Art


its not the video card Art but it could be the driver revison and how you have them set up..


I'm on 169.21 which is the most recent (to my knowledge) certified driver.


More than likely you got a BUM SP2 install... seen it happen more than once. Did you follow the list I made for installing FSX, from scratch?

Yes, I installed clean, from scratch.

And I am telling you right now... all those things you are doing like moving sliders to the far left and changing FSC.cfg settings manually are WRONG

the settings I posted, although a bit HIGH, should get you in the ball park... if they dont, then something is not right

I agree something is certainly not right.

the only thing in the FSX.cfg file with SP2 you should be concerned with is the WIDESCREEN, DISABLE PRELOAD, TEXTURE BANDWIDTH MULTIPLIER, which should NEVER go over 80 and should be between 35 and 80, usually its left at DEFAULT... and, BUFFERPOOLS

That's pretty much all I have focused on, with the exception of LOD_radius as I mentioned.  And that seems to be the only setting I change which seems to make any difference. Changing the TBM to 60 or anything within the range you suggest yields no obvious differences.  One thing I have not changed since the fsx.cfg rebuild is the wideview, and I shall do that now.

thats it.. you screw with anything else and you will end up with trouble

Sliders to full off will net you nothing but a MESS..  Delete the FSX,cfg file and start rebuilding with what I posted and if its not right, there is something wrong

I really question 100+FPS..  if you are set up right you should not see any more than 58 on peaks in the middle of nowhere.. in cities you will never see that on your system.

Well, I'm not making this up.  That's what I get when I set it to unlimited.





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Re: Blurries are driving me insane! Help please!!

Postby NickN » Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:03 am

[quote][quote][quote]Just to recap, Nick..

Reset all sliders to the left, unticked all checkboxes, so all available cpu cycles would be available to graphics as much as is possible.

I then moved all sliders related to graphics all the way right.
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