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Postby Solid » Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:57 am

Tried it last night and Kept it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.....I was getting a range of 18-36 fps with 169.09 which was nice....with this new driver I am receiving from my Rinky Dink PC with Nvidia 8800GTS, and 2 GIG.....25-40 and much more steady, FSX sliders mostly at 95% except air traffic at 45%, vehicle traffic 25% and Water at 1X ........................do try it and good luck. ;) ;)
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Re: Nvidia

Postby SubZer0 » Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:00 am

Solid, I'm glad to hear your performance is increasing with every new driver NVIDIA releases. Can we please see your system specs?
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Re: Nvidia

Postby Celtman » Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:01 am

I too am using this driver and would have to recommend it over the 169.09 and 169.13 betas, which caused severe stability issues on my pc. They also really screwed my FS, as something to do with "Video Shader Caching" (I think), was activated, and could not be turned off on my motherboard. The shader issue caused several modules to fail in FS9 and FSX, preventing a flight from even loading.

Basically, I too say try these drivers, and would recommend them highly. However, the betas may be just as good if not better for some.

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Re: Nvidia

Postby Solid » Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:15 am

Solid, I'm glad to hear your performance is increasing with every new driver NVIDIA releases. Can we please see your system specs?


Here they are................Off the shelf Acer, Vista Home, Intel Core 2 Duo, 2GIG Ram, Nvidia 8800GTS, 2 80GIG hard drives inside, 1 160G outside (usb)--this is all for FSX and some FSX back-ups--- 2, 20 inch Flats--keyboard and a mouse.. Paid $ 900.00 plus Tax (5%)Minus de USB drive, I got that later.($ 95.00)------A regular Rinky Dink. ;) ;)----I run FSX off the USB drive......I also have it on C.------------

By the way I first posted my good luck with Nvidia
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Re: Nvidia

Postby NickN » Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:21 am

I too am using this driver and would have to recommend it over the 169.09 and 169.13 betas, which caused severe stability issues on my pc. They also really screwed my FS, as something to do with "Video Shader Caching" (I think), was activated, and could not be turned off on my motherboard. The shader issue caused several modules to fail in FS9 and FSX, preventing a flight from even loading.

Basically, I too say try these drivers, and would recommend them highly. However, the betas may be just as good if not better for some.

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As I recall it was not just the beta's but you also had this happen after removing the drivers completely, and, installing the official release

At least that is what you posted and as I understood it.

When it comes to drivers every system can be different with respect to chipsets, motherboard drivers, motherboard electrionics, different release versions of the same cards and motherboards, the list goes on and on

The 169.21's were a real problem however I was aware the .25's reparied several issues including missing screen resolutions. The reports I was getting on the 25's were they provided no difference in anything other than bug fixes and I did not install them myself.

They are getting ready to go to WHQL (posibly with the 25's) and if they do, nvidia will most likely implement the final upgrades/fixes to them so I decided to wait. They are still missing some features WHQL drivers must have to get that cert.


Its always best right now to try the latest release drivers, especially with Nvidia because they are spitting out drivers sometime 2 releases a week now in trying to plug holes in their cores.
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Re: Nvidia

Postby NickN » Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:32 am

Tried it last night and Kept it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.....I was getting a range of 18-36 fps with 169.09 which was nice....with this new driver I am receiving from my Rinky Dink PC with Nvidia 8800GTS, and 2 GIG.....25-40 and much more steady, FSX sliders mostly at 95% except air traffic at 45%, vehicle traffic 25% and Water at 1X ........................do try it and good luck. ;) ;)



Dont take this the wrong way

but your estimates of what you are getting always tend to push the limits of reality

going from 18-36 to 25-40 means your average performance increased
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Re: Nvidia

Postby Solid » Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:35 am

Solid, I'm glad to hear your performance is increasing with every new driver NVIDIA releases. Can we please see your system specs?


After looking at your rig
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Re: Nvidia

Postby Solid » Wed Dec 19, 2007 12:04 pm

Tried it last night and Kept it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.....I was getting a range of 18-36 fps with 169.09 which was nice....with this new driver I am receiving from my Rinky Dink PC with Nvidia 8800GTS, and 2 GIG.....25-40 and much more steady, FSX sliders mostly at 95% except air traffic at 45%, vehicle traffic 25% and Water at 1X ........................do try it and good luck. ;) ;)



Dont take this the wrong way

but your estimates of what you are getting always tend to push the limits of reality

going from 18-36 to 25-40 means your average performance increased  27/32.5 or 6.5 frames and assuming you are making that judgment based on the exact same flight, and the frames are being recorded at the exact same times (electronically) under the exact same conditions in the air, location, time of day, weather, number of clouds showing, etc, etc, etc

that would mean a single driver increased your perf by 24.07%   Sorry, but that is just rediculous. Even Aces had to rewrite the title to get 20% out of it

Your estimates are far fetched. You must remember you can not report such thing accurately without using an engineering base line calculation and test pattern to make that assesment.


;D ;D ;D ;D ;D..........you sure like to be a nice guy!!!!!! ..... ;D ;D ;D ;D.....I guess I don
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Re: Nvidia

Postby NickN » Wed Dec 19, 2007 12:36 pm

all I have to say about that is people read exaggerated or unqualified statements, and the supporting comments and wonder if you are not smoking something

They also may believe you are getting a 24% boost and do something they may regret without understanding what you posted is not possible


and I did not say anything about Nvidia that was not true. Since hardware sites and partners must kiss each others arse in order to save face and keep the cash cow going, they won
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Re: Nvidia

Postby NickN » Wed Dec 19, 2007 12:42 pm

And by the way... you said it yourself
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Re: Nvidia

Postby Celtman » Wed Dec 19, 2007 1:37 pm

As I recall it was not just the beta's but you also had this happen after removing the drivers completely, and, installing the official release



Sorry I mustn't have explained well. I had the problem with the betas, and with no drivers, but upon install of the newest drivers, my FS worked fine. I researched for hours on the net and found several people having the same problems with shader caching and FS, most of whom had the same motherboard as me, which does not allow you to disable this feature (as far as I am aware). Therefore, my motherboard caused the 169.09 and .13 betas to be unstable and work incorrectly. My system obviously just didn't function well with them :'(

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Re: Nvidia

Postby NickN » Wed Dec 19, 2007 1:46 pm

As I recall it was not just the beta's but you also had this happen after removing the drivers completely, and, installing the official release



Sorry I mustn't have explained well. I had the problem with the betas, and with no drivers, but upon install of the newest drivers, my FS worked fine. I researched for hours on the net and found several people having the same problems with shader caching and FS, most of whom had the same motherboard as me, which does not allow you to disable this feature (as far as I am aware). Therefore, my motherboard caused the 169.09 and .13 betas to be unstable and work incorrectly. My system obviously just didn't function well with them :'(

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Thank you for following up with that and I will look into it and remember the issue. I am sorry you had to go through that. I did recall you mentioned trying the official drivers which is why I did not think it was driver related and only affecting MSFS products.

I think you are right Nick... :-?

Installed the most recent official drivers (163.75), motherboard drivers and checked I had the latest version of DirectX, same problem, with both FSX and FS9 >:(. Other games are running well though. Perhaps a coincidence. Unfortunately no system restore, turned it off as it is such a resource hog.



So in retro, it was a hardware issue the drivers being tested brough to the surface


Again, thanks for following up and I will keep it in mind if I see anyone else having the same problem.




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Re: Nvidia

Postby Solid » Wed Dec 19, 2007 3:09 pm

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all I have to say about that is people read exaggerated or unqualified statements, and the supporting comments and wonder if you are not smoking something

They also may believe you are getting a 24% boost and do something they may regret without understanding what you posted is not possible

and I did not say anything about Nvidia that was not true. Since hardware sites and partners must kiss each others arse in order to save face and keep the cash cow going, they won
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Re: Nvidia

Postby Solid » Wed Dec 19, 2007 3:22 pm

Oh Nick....................about caring I said
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Re: Nvidia

Postby Solid » Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:13 am

Hola Pilotos!!............ ( Hi Pilots!!)

Here are two pics I jus took over Portland. As you can see the FPS
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