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Re: FSX & SLI

Postby justpassingthrough » Tue Mar 20, 2007 11:14 pm

Raise the fiber frame to 30 and see if it drags it down like it use to


I raised it to 30 and it seemed to work, but I noticed some patches here and there so I raised it again at 33 and it looks better than it did at 30.



Thats fine!

Since you are tuned up now, you can start working numbers like that. Lets leave it at 33 if it cleans it up. Originally that is where I thought you should be.


Are you still running 20 locked?
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Re: FSX & SLI

Postby Black ZR-1 » Tue Mar 20, 2007 11:17 pm

Are you still running 20 locked?


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Re: FSX & SLI

Postby Nick N » Tue Mar 20, 2007 11:24 pm

I am going to call it a night.

If you want to raise the video card to 625/1850, go ahead, but please watch for any signs of graphic errors.

Also, verify CPUz is running the same numbers you had. I am sure it is but if you did not check after setting the system back up, it would not hurt to verify

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I think you should fly it for a whle now and work out the small issues such as the fiber frame, like you just did, as you go.

The may be another trick up my sleeve with the clock and we will try it when everything is finished.

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Re: FSX & SLI

Postby justpassingthrough » Tue Mar 20, 2007 11:27 pm

Are you still running 20 locked?


Yes



If you would like to try raising it to 24 to see what happens, I'm all for it. We may find out 20 is the magic number. I think you already know the flight routines so just use what you learned to test the frame lock at 24. watch for the blurries , stutters and other annoying items that may pop up.
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Re: FSX & SLI

Postby Black ZR-1 » Tue Mar 20, 2007 11:28 pm

I am going to call it a night.

If you want to raise the video card to 625/1850, go ahead, but please watch for any signs of graphic errors.

Also, verify CPUz is running the same numbers you had. I am sure it is but if you did not check after setting the system back up, it would not hurt to verify

2275MHz x7, 1.39v, 325 bus, 1300 FSB... 325mem @ 1:1 4-4-4-4-12-15


I think you should fly it for a whle now and work out the small issues such as the fiber frame, like you just did, as you go.

The may be another trick up my sleeve with the clock and we will try it when everything is finished.

have a good night




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Re: FSX & SLI

Postby justpassingthrough » Tue Mar 20, 2007 11:28 pm


I am going to call it a night.

If you want to raise the video card to 625/1850, go ahead, but please watch for any signs of graphic errors.

Also, verify CPUz is running the same numbers you had. I am sure it is but if you did not check after setting the system back up, it would not hurt to verify

2275MHz x7, 1.39v, 325 bus, 1300 FSB... 325mem @ 1:1 4-4-4-4-12-15


I think you should fly it for a whle now and work out the small issues such as the fiber frame, like you just did, as you go.

The may be another trick up my sleeve with the clock and we will try it when everything is finished.

have a good night




Good night! You pulled a full shift today.  :)
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Re: FSX & SLI

Postby Black ZR-1 » Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:00 am

Still stable at 625/1850 GPU. No artifacts nor tearing.

I think the fiber @ 33 helped a lot too and the frame lock at 24 seems smooth as well.

Still flying.

I also double checked cpu-z and everything looks fine.
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Re: FSX & SLI

Postby justpassingthrough » Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:16 am

Still stable at 650/1850 GPU. No artifacts nor tearing.

I think the fiber @ 33 helped a lot too and the frame lock at 24 seems smooth as well.

Still flying.

I also double checked cpu-z and everything looks fine.




Sounds good!

NickN PM'ed me earlier and explained that we need to test that card with the new clocks, unleashing its abilities and seeing how raising the frame rate and other elements of the sim does. I don't know the card so that part is his turf. He said we may end up taking you higher on frame lock than 24 but that if 24 works better, leave it and the next step is to tweak traffic since you said autogen was looking good.

It's not just about flying around or outside the city areas. You have to land and if that gets bogged down because the lock is too high or other items are out of sync, then we need to consider a middle ground that will provide the airport performance and the flight too.

Since the processor is now talking to the memory 50% faster, the video card can now discuss things with the CPU in much better time. The bottleneck has been opened so now it
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Re: FSX & SLI

Postby Black ZR-1 » Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:28 am

Since I installed the Zalman and did the perf hole cut out, I can no longer hear the GPU fan. But I did set it in the menu:

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I've also been monitoring my temps:

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Re: FSX & SLI

Postby justpassingthrough » Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:35 am

My drivers have a temp monitor in the old and new driver panel. I have to use the NEW driver panel to record a time lapse of the temp while in real use. The old driver control only allows me to see the temp of the core. I used that feature when I was tweaking my card while I fly to verify no overheat condition was occurring. You can not read the memory temp but you can read the core. I do not know what the temp tolerances are on an 8800 card but I would say without looking it up it wants to stay below 75c. The new cards may run hotter by nature and its ok if they run above 70-75c, that I do not know. You can't exit the sim and check the GPU temp. It will drop off too fast. It has to be recorded while you fly and then look at the graph to be sure its staying below its max, again, I do not know what thet temp is for a 8800
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Re: FSX & SLI

Postby justpassingthrough » Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:40 am

Since I installed the Zalman and did the perf hole cut out, I can no longer hear the GPU fan. But I did set it in the menu:

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I've also been monitoring my temps:

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You simply do not know how lucky you are to run such temps under load conditions. You were running close to 50c before that all got rebuilt. Those numbers are incredible. That tower is fully optimized and I know that power supply is one of the reasons. When I got mine, even with the custom tower and fan work, the temps dropped AGAIN just by installing a high quality power supply unit.
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Re: FSX & SLI

Postby Black ZR-1 » Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:44 am

You simply do not know how lucky you are to run such temps under load conditions. You were running close to 50c before that all got rebuilt. Those numbers are incredible. That tower is fully optimized and I know that power supply is one of the reasons. When I got mine, even with the custom tower and fan work, the temps dropped AGAIN just by installing a high quality power supply unit.


Do you think replacing my 80mm fans with the ones Nick suggested (the ones you have) would help even more?
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Re: FSX & SLI

Postby justpassingthrough » Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:56 am

You simply do not know how lucky you are to run such temps under load conditions. You were running close to 50c before that all got rebuilt. Those numbers are incredible. That tower is fully optimized and I know that power supply is one of the reasons. When I got mine, even with the custom tower and fan work, the temps dropped AGAIN just by installing a high quality power supply unit.


Do you think replacing my 80mm fans with the ones Nick suggested (the ones you have) would help even more?


Those fluid dynamic bearing fans are for noise reduction. They wont cool it any better, just run quiet as compared to a regular fan...  but you do not need any more cooling !! ;D  They do run a bit slower as well which is why I went with a 120mm. The big 120mm pulls a lot of air without a high RPM.

I use the software speedfan to control my fan speeds at idle and load. I have the tower fans running 800RPM until the motherboard temp reaches 39, then they kick up to 1400. That big 120mm at 1400 moves pleanty of air and the 80mm on the side feeds enough at that speed to. The Zalman CPU fan runs 1300 at idle and 2500 when the CPU temp goes above 45c (for a x2 4800+ over clocked to the hilt, thats cool) AMD CPUs run about 55-58c when clocked out like that on a good heat sink under a load. It idles at about 35c.

The real test for you will be summer. I am sure it is cool now but come this summer them temps may creep back up into the mid-high 40's on a hot day.

Can you immagine how hot you would have been this summer without the upgrades?  I think by the summer you may have come close to locking up or having strange crashes at the temps you were pushing
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Re: FSX & SLI

Postby Black ZR-1 » Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:01 am

[quote]Those fluid dynamic bearing fans are for noise reduction. They wont cool it any better, just run quiet as compared to a regular fan...
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Re: FSX & SLI

Postby justpassingthrough » Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:05 am

[quote][quote]Those fluid dynamic bearing fans are for noise reduction. They wont cool it any better, just run quiet as compared to a regular fan...
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