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Postby olderndirt » Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:38 am

The other day I downloaded the C185, by Lucariny, from Simviation props P22.
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Re: a difficult flight

Postby Sean_TK » Tue Mar 17, 2009 10:43 am

Have you tried adjusting the elevator effectiveness, elevator trim effectiveness, and/or lift coefficient variables of the wing yet?

Note: I have not had the opportunity yet to try this aircraft.
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Re: a difficult flight

Postby dave3cu » Tue Mar 17, 2009 10:54 am

I just tried it, same outcome as yours. Needs a major overhaul of the .cfg/.air files I'd suspect.

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Re: a difficult flight

Postby Fozzer » Tue Mar 17, 2009 11:02 am

...well, at least you managed to get it off the ground!.... :o...!

I started it up...the Tacho needle wound itself up against the stop...and stayed there...with the Aircraft firmly glued to the ground and the prop flailing away...and nothing happening as regards any forward movement!

I think I'll stick to my Cessna 150...;)...!

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Re: a difficult flight

Postby olderndirt » Tue Mar 17, 2009 11:07 am

Sean - I hit DELETE.
Thanks for the other feedback - good to know it wasn't me alone.
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Re: a difficult flight

Postby patchz » Tue Mar 17, 2009 10:48 pm

...well, at least you managed to get it off the ground!.... :o...!

I started it up...the Tacho needle wound itself up against the stop...and stayed there...with the Aircraft firmly glued to the ground and the prop flailing away...and nothing happening as regards any forward movement!

I think I'll stick to my Cessna 150...;)...!

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I have to ask, did you release the brakes?
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Re: a difficult flight

Postby olderndirt » Wed Mar 18, 2009 12:51 am

Tonight I got on a Spanish language sim site and found a C185 - what luck !!
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Re: a difficult flight

Postby Fozzer » Wed Mar 18, 2009 3:56 am

...well, at least you managed to get it off the ground!.... :o...!

I started it up...the Tacho needle wound itself up against the stop...and stayed there...with the Aircraft firmly glued to the ground and the prop flailing away...and nothing happening as regards any forward movement!

I think I'll stick to my Cessna 150...;)...!

Paul---G-BPLF...FS 2004... ;)...!


I have to ask, did you release the brakes?
Sorry, couldn't resist.


Tee-Hee... ;D...!

After flying Microsoft's Aircraft every day for the past 10+ years, I think I've got that one figured out... ;D... ;D... ;D...!

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Funny thing though, me having little patience, if I try an aircraft that doesn't work correctly, I instantly delete it, and download one that does work correctly...;)
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Re: a difficult flight

Postby Hagar » Wed Mar 18, 2009 4:34 am

...well, at least you managed to get it off the ground!.... :o...!

I started it up...the Tacho needle wound itself up against the stop...and stayed there...with the Aircraft firmly glued to the ground and the prop flailing away...and nothing happening as regards any forward movement!

I think I'll stick to my Cessna 150...;)...!

Paul---G-BPLF...FS 2004... ;)...!


I have to ask, did you release the brakes?
Sorry, couldn't resist.


Tee-Hee... ;D...!

After flying Microsoft's Aircraft every day for the past 10+ years, I think I've got that one figured out... ;D... ;D... ;D...!

Paul..G-BPLF...FS 2004..FS Navigator...and a Handbrake handle... ;D...!

Funny thing though, me having little patience, if I try an aircraft that doesn't work correctly, I instantly delete it, and download one that does work correctly...;)
Life is much too short for "messing about"!...;)... ;D...!

My curiosity got the better of me so I just tried it. I suspect your problem was a case of too much of the old red vino. :P

I had the same problems as the others. It's a shame as the C185 is not a bad looking model. Some people are better at modelling than flight dynamics. Should be easy enough to fix if anyone was interested.
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Re: a difficult flight

Postby Opa » Wed Mar 18, 2009 5:46 am

Well curiosity got the best of me -

I downloaded and installed the C185dgl - (CESSNA 185 SKYWAGON VH-DGL by JRLUCARINY).

As presented it indeed is a flying disaster.

But just as an experiment I copied over the air file (Cessna182S.air) from the default C182 and edited the sim= line so it reads:

sim=Cessna182S

The Cessna 185 Skywagon VH-DGL flies "reasonably well" with those minor changes.

It is not a "keeper" for me however.
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Re: a difficult flight

Postby Formula_1 » Thu Mar 19, 2009 3:53 am

Hi

I have noticed over the years that many planes have trim set way too high, in their .cfg file:
elevator_trim_effectiveness = 1.0
From the default Lear.

1.0 is full deflection, just as much as full deflection of your joystick. It is far too much. Try something like 0.15. This is all most planes need and will still allow you enough trim for any segment of the flight, including approach. Plus it makes adjustment so much smoother and much moe realistic. Rudder and Aileron need lowering too.

The first thing I do when I install a plane is check the trim settings in the .cfg. Probably 90% of the planes I have installed needed adjustments.

Good luck and happy flying :)
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Re: a difficult flight

Postby olderndirt » Thu Mar 19, 2009 9:26 am

Formula 1
Much as I'd like to dive into a .cfg file and do some of this technical stuff, methinks my skill level is a lot lower than my enthusiasm.
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Re: a difficult flight

Postby garymbuska » Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:45 pm

[quote]Formula 1
Much as I'd like to dive into a .cfg file and do some of this technical stuff, methinks my skill level is a lot lower than my enthusiasm.
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