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Re: Terrain_default_radius

Postby justpassingthrough » Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:05 pm

I have posted that so many times I forgot to add the credit! NickN knows I wouldnt do that on purpose (he knows where I live LOL!! )


miltestpilot,

No biggie!
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Re: Terrain_default_radius

Postby justpassingthrough » Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:19 pm

your card and system should have no problem setting as follows:

Save a copy of your current FS9.cfg file in a safe place. Then DELETE the FS9.cfg file being used by the sim.

Start Flight Simulator. You will be starting clean with a new FS9.cfg file Let the sim boot and go to the SETTINGS area. Make the following changes:


Attention: miltestpilot. Any chance those settings you gave Jayhawk Jake will work for me? I have FS9 now and want to tweak it as well.


I think you are going to have to realize your video card and processor are not up to FS9 standards, much less FSX. I dont want to be the bearer of bad news but the x300 will hardly get out of the gate when it comes to FS9.

The list I posted is really designed for x800 and up video cards. Even the 9800 pro would still have trouble keeping up and the x300 is well below that in ability.

Is that a x300 viced card? Or a x300 onboard video chip? That also makes a difference too. If its onboard, it worse because it will take a chunk of ram memory away from your system for the onboard video chip as soon as you boot the computer.

You can use this web site to compare cards:

http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php ... 6&card2=31


select yours from drop down 1 and another from drop down 2.


For FSX, if you are after visuals and performance the lowest cards would be the 7900GTX 512mb and the ATI x1950-1900XT 512mb and even those will struggle.


For FS9 the lowest card would be the x800xt 256mb or the 7800 256mb series nvidia
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Re: Terrain_default_radius

Postby aussiewannabe » Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:47 pm


Attention: miltestpilot. Any chance those settings you gave Jayhawk Jake will work for me? I have FS9 now and want to tweak it as well.

I think you are going to have to realize your video card and processor are not up to FS9 standards, much less FSX. I dont want to be the bearer of bad news but the x300 will hardly get out of the gate when it comes to FS9.

Is that a x300 viceo card? Or a x300 onboard video chip? That also makes a difference too.


To my knowledge, it's an x300 video card. I can't find anything about the onboard video chip. While I understand that my processor comes up short (3.4GHz is recommended), I would think that it would handle FS9. It feels less demanding in terms of graphics and it doesn't hiccup like FSX. However, I will look into what you have suggested.

Thanks.
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Re: Terrain_default_radius

Postby justpassingthrough » Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:09 pm


Attention: miltestpilot. Any chance those settings you gave Jayhawk Jake will work for me? I have FS9 now and want to tweak it as well.

I think you are going to have to realize your video card and processor are not up to FS9 standards, much less FSX. I dont want to be the bearer of bad news but the x300 will hardly get out of the gate when it comes to FS9.

Is that a x300 viceo card? Or a x300 onboard video chip? That also makes a difference too.


To my knowledge, it's an x300 video card. I can't find anything about the onboard video chip. While I understand that my processor comes up short (3.4GHz is recommended), I would think that it would handle FS9. It feels less demanding in terms of graphics and it doesn't hiccup like FSX. However, I will look into what you have suggested.

Thanks.



for the processor, its not the speed, its the class and the design

A 1.8-2.2 gig Core2 will -well- out perform your 3gig D

people put too much into GHz speed. Its not about the speed of the processor as much as it is the processors ability to communicate with the memory and bus
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Re: Terrain_default_radius

Postby Nick N » Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:33 pm

John is welcome to post my comments and information when ever and where ever he feels it may serve a good purpose on these forums.

I dont think for a moment he is posting such information for any reason other than to help people



On the subject of the laptop, the hardware it runs is very good however laptops do suffer from restrictions their desktop counterparts do not.

I would suggest the person who is using this laptop look at the power management features and make sure the unit is not running some type of power saving mode because that may reduce the units ability to run such intense graphics applications. Some laptop BIOS's will invoke an UP/down power management as a load is applied and that can make changing loads stutter worse.

Just a suggestion


But the cloud replacement is a must as far as i am concerned. The original clouds in FS9 were made incorrectly and need to be replaced with ones that are correctly made. AS clouds are also not made quite a friendly but are better than the default. You have to make sure they are properly replacing the default clouds and I would also use the DXt3 low res replacements if possible and if they are offered in AS.

FE clouds are far superior than any other for looks and performance
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Re: Terrain_default_radius

Postby gypsymoth » Fri Jul 20, 2007 3:22 pm

I'd appreciate comments as fs9 works well in my laptop but stutters at Heathrow in the 9150 after swapping to a new nVidia 7900.   I'm going to use the NickN tweaks to see if that helps.   FSX is OK in the M1710 too but not in the 9150.  
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Re: Terrain_default_radius

Postby Nick N » Fri Jul 20, 2007 3:34 pm

In a laptop BIOS the system may invoke a CPU power mode which can be switched from power save to HIGH PERFORMANCE. There are many variations of that setting. It may not say HIGH PERFORMACE, it may say SPEEDSTEP, C1E SUPPORT or other ENABLED and it may also have settings that turn on AGGRESSIVE MEMORY performance.

Laptops were NEVER designed for 3D Games and are always set up for power savings by default.


CAUTION: Entering a BIOS and making changes can be dangerous. I only posted the information as an FYI. Caution should always be taken if you do not understand what you are doing.

You assume the responsibility for such changes
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Re: Terrain_default_radius

Postby Jakemaster » Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:48 pm

Nick-

My laptop has various modes, all accessible with a button on top.  When it is plugged in it always defaults to High Performance, so when I play the sim it's fine.  The only issue is that it gets VERY hot, even with a chillpad that I have under it.  It gets so hot that the keyboard has actually warped a little, but its not noticable unless you look at it at eyelevel, so until something stops working I'm not concerned (I could probably mail it back to Asus and get the keyboard replaced if it got too bad).

I will probably get FE at some point, but it is still kinda expensive...and FSUIPC is also quite pricey.  I can live with the performance issues for now, but I want to fix them eventually.
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Re: Terrain_default_radius

Postby JSpahn » Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:49 pm

For future reference, I have been following this post and yeah get FE once you have the means. What a difference in global frame rates. :D I picked it up today and im very impressed.
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Re: Terrain_default_radius

Postby Nick N » Sat Jul 21, 2007 4:01 pm

[quote]Nick-

My laptop has various modes, all accessible with a button on top.
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Re: Terrain_default_radius

Postby gypsymoth » Sat Jul 21, 2007 5:54 pm

Mmmm.  If laptops were not designed for games like fs9 I wonder why mine runs FS9 & FXS so much better than the Dimension 9150?  
It's awful when on battery power but as soon as the main supply is on it's a smooth as silk!   Fortunately heat does not seem to be problem as I have small blocks at each corner lifting it 1 inch off the table top.
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Re: Terrain_default_radius

Postby Jakemaster » Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:21 pm

Nick-

My laptop has various modes, all accessible with a button on top.  When it is plugged in it always defaults to High Performance, so when I play the sim it's fine.  The only issue is that it gets VERY hot, even with a chillpad that I have under it.  It gets so hot that the keyboard has actually warped a little, but its not noticable unless you look at it at eyelevel, so until something stops working I'm not concerned (I could probably mail it back to Asus and get the keyboard replaced if it got too bad).

I will probably get FE at some point, but it is still kinda expensive...and FSUIPC is also quite pricey.  I can live with the performance issues for now, but I want to fix them eventually.



It sounds like you have the external ability to change the power management, nice feature

But the heat you have posted about is excessive if it is damaging the case. That is why I posted that laptops were never designed to do continuious high performance work and it sounds like you may be pushing that unit a weeeeee bit too much.

FE, set up as miltest posted, should fix your cloud stutter problem





Its possible that the keyboard was this way when I got it, I never noticed.  It doesn't seem to be changing anymore so it could be something other than the heat.  The most noticable side effect of the keyboard warp is that the spacebar is sort of angled, it slants upward to the right.   Laptops may not be designed for hgeavy games, but this is a gaming laptop...
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Re: Terrain_default_radius

Postby born_2_fly » Sun Jul 22, 2007 6:32 am

Here is the line that somebody mentioned on another forum somewhere:

CloudsImpostorRingRadius=24000.000000

Whatever it is it DOES work


What part of the .cfg do you put this in?  ::)
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