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Re: For Richardd43

Postby Nick N » Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:57 pm

OK, I lied
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Re: For Richardd43

Postby richardd43 » Sat Apr 28, 2007 4:24 pm

LOL... Is OK, I promised to take my wife to the city today.

BTW I ran HL2 for a couple of hours at the higher voltage settings and never experiences a heat problem. Am not sure how CPU intense the game actually it though.

The new Logitech drivers screwed up my CPU monitor on my keyboard.
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Re: For Richardd43

Postby Nick N » Sat Apr 28, 2007 4:30 pm

LOL... Is OK, I promised to take my wife to the city today.

BTW I ran HL2 for a couple of hours at the higher voltage settings and never experiences a heat problem. Am not sure how CPU intense the game actually it though.

The new Logitech drivers screwed up my CPU monitor on my keyboard.



Well my neighbor is much cuter than you so the priority here is well defined
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Re: For Richardd43

Postby Nick N » Sat Apr 28, 2007 9:53 pm

Forgot the disclaimer for the readers who may lurk here...


THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION IS SPECIFIC TO RICHARDD43 AND HIS SYSTEM ALONE. IF YOU USE ANY OF THE INFORMATION I PROVIDE BELOW, YOU DO SO AT YOUR OWN RISK. THIS SITE, NOR ME, IS RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR CURIOSITY OR THE SMOKE COMING FROM YOUR COMPUTER





Sorry about the hold up Richard.

After going over the numbers I have here I have some questions that need to be answered before we can start jacking things up. The 590 chipset control incorporates divider scales which differs from what I am use to working with and are completely different than your other board. I need to see some settings and their influence on HT and memory so I confirm the scales before I feel comfortable in calculating a full clock.

At a certain point the 590 chipset responds better to high memory frequency than low latency. Because of that and the fact that we want to try and get the CPU as high as possible, we are going to work this out with the memory set to 2T and high timing (SPD) and then tweak it as we go.

Instead of just posting my interpretation of a clock, I would prefer to take a more conservative approach here and check a few things out. Because of that, this will take a bit longer than anticipated but the end result may be significantly better.

What I would like you to do is set the system up by the numbers I present below. Assuming the system boots into Windows without issue, if you would please post the CPUz CPU and MEMORY tabs it would help me to understand the direction I am going with the chipset is correct. I do not need any other tab, just those 2.

Once they are posted, I may ask to repeat the process with another set of values to compare.

While we are doing this, it may be best to not run any load tests. I provided a set of numbers you can return the system to after the following items are changed and recorded so you may return the system to default for normal use while I work through a few unknowns.


I know going back and forth like this is a pain, and setting the BIOS up over and over but the end result may present a much better outcome.


EXTREME TWEAKER

LinkBoost [DISABLED]

AI Tuning [MANUAL]

SLI-Ready Memory [Disabled]

Overclocking

CPU Frequency [320]
CPU Multiplier [10x]
Memory Clock Frequency [DDR2 400]
PCIEX16_1 Clock [100]
PCIEX16_2 Clock [100]
CPU<->NB HT Speed [3xCPU Frequency]
NB to SB HT Frequency [200]
NB --> SB HT Speed [5xNB to SB HT Frequency]
SB --> NB HT Speed [5xSB to NB HT Frequency]
CPU<->NB HT Width [[ch8595]16 [ch8593]16]
NB<->SB HT Width [[ch8595]16 [ch8593]16]



CPU Voltage Range [1.55-1.65]
CPU Voltage [1.55v] note: If you have problems booting or staying stable, try 1.60v
DDR2 Voltage Control [2.10v]
HT Link Voltage [1.40v]
NB Core Voltage [1.40v]
SB Core Voltage [1.60v]
SB PLL Voltage [1.65v]



DRAM Configuration

Tcl [5]
Trcd [5]
Trp [5]
Tras [15]
Width of DRAM Interface [Auto] (only 64bit for single stick of memory)
1T/2T Memory Timing [2T]
AI Clock Skew [Auto]
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Re: For Richardd43

Postby Nick N » Sat Apr 28, 2007 10:07 pm

I made an edit to what I posted about dropping the FSB if the system will not boot ... in case you may have missed it when I was editing
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Re: For Richardd43

Postby richardd43 » Sat Apr 28, 2007 10:36 pm

Will be a few minutes before I get back downstairs to the other puter.

Will post everything as soon as I finish....

And my wife said your wrong.... your neighbor is not cuter than I am.... ROFL
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Re: For Richardd43

Postby Nick N » Sat Apr 28, 2007 10:39 pm

Will be a few minutes before I get back downstairs to the other puter.

Will post everything as soon as I finish....

And my wife said your wrong.... your neighbor is not cuter than I am.... ROFL




toooooo funny       ;D
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Re: For Richardd43

Postby Nick N » Sat Apr 28, 2007 10:50 pm

About the keyboard and the CPU monitor...

If by chance you shut down the performance counters using the Resorce Kit program exctrlst.exe (from the list of items I have posted to enhance performance) that will turn off the CPU monitor on the keyboard. If that is so and you would like to enable that function again.. launch exctrlst.exe, ( C:\Program Files\Resource Kit\exctrlst.exe) scroll down and enable..

PerfOS
PerfProc

by highlighting them and placing a check in "Performance Counters Enabled"

After a reboot you will have your blinky lights back   ;D

If you did not shut down the performance counters, then I guess it was the drivers    ;)   ;D
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Re: For Richardd43

Postby richardd43 » Sat Apr 28, 2007 11:38 pm

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I booted up with no problems with all of the settings except:
LinkBoost disabled
SLI-Ready Memory disabled

I did not find them>>>
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Re: For Richardd43

Postby Nick N » Sun Apr 29, 2007 12:09 am

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I booted up with no problems with all of the settings except:
LinkBoost disabled
SLI-Ready Memory disabled

I did not find them>>>



The forums went down and I had to wait for them to come back up


Ok, the numbers look correct now and fall in line with a 1:1 ratio. As you can see I used a 10x multiplier to ensure a base 10 divider and the FSB/MEM are now 1:1. Hypertransprt is also calculated correct @ 3x320=960

That goes against what I saw in the first CPUz you posted for memory speed so now we need to do a few more checks.

As for the settings, according to the manual they should be here:

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I would really like to find those two if they are in that BIOS because they can make the job of getting a clock stable rough, especially when we get to the BIOS PCIe overclock not to mention the video card clock.

I am running another set of numbers and will post them in a few minutes.. assuming the forum does not go down again
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Re: For Richardd43

Postby Nick N » Sun Apr 29, 2007 12:23 am

OK.. this one you may not boot,
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Re: For Richardd43

Postby richardd43 » Sun Apr 29, 2007 1:01 am

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I am pretty sure the Bios in the manual was for the previous Bios. The update seemed to have deleted both settings.
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Re: For Richardd43

Postby Nick N » Sun Apr 29, 2007 1:10 am

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I am pretty sure the Bios in the manual was for the previous Bios. The update seemed to have deleted both settings.



OK, lets hope that is right..


Richard... you are now smoking but not sizzling and we may get you sizzling here before we are done but I dont want to literally do that to the CPU... at least not yet
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Re: For Richardd43

Postby richardd43 » Sun Apr 29, 2007 1:20 am

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Re: For Richardd43

Postby Nick N » Sun Apr 29, 2007 1:46 am

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Right on the money


If its getting late for you we can continue tomorrow.

The next step is to raise the CPU Frequency until it either does not boot or is not stable booting into Windows. I dont want to go nutz here because I know without a CPU cooler you wll be limted, but lets see where than limit sits.


First.. for now, drop the Memory Clock Frequency to [DDR2 400]

Then proceed...


CPU Multilier [9]
CPU Frequency [360]
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