64 Bit processor good for FS9?

[JFG389]

Dear people,

I am thinking of someday getting a new computer AMD 64 Athon. But I don't want to get it if I can't run my FS9 any helps here. Currently runing AMD XP 2400 with PSI 128 mb card and 512 memory.

Thinks great flying to you all sim pilots.

JFG

[4_Series_Scania]

Forget the processor - an AMD 64 would be just fine anyhow - a far more important consideration is the Graphics card.

FS9 will still look crap with a

[Delta_]

What is the PSI 128 card?

[4_Series_Scania]

What is the PSI 128 card?

Hav'nt the faintest idea mate, can you elaborate ?

[|| Andy ||]

He meens PCI 128mb
What make and type?

[Dan]

Yep more details are definatly needed!  ;D There are soem 'exciting' new 64 bit cores out from AMD just now, and they are the San Diego's and Venice's. BEst choice depends on if you want to overclock or not - what I here is that the San Diego's 1Mb level 2 cache is relativly fast, yet doesn't OC as well as a Venice. In simple terms well cooled and clocked Venice's are kicking more expensive San Diego @$$! Up to you, thats just my two-penneth. I run a NewCastle!
Dan

[4_Series_Scania]

He meens PCI 128mb
What make and type?

If its a PCI 128MB Card such as an FX5200 / FX5600 then utter crap! - PCI is so much slower than AGP!

If its a PCI-Exoress 128MB Card, then it'll certainly be better than say a PCI  FX5200 (not hard!) but, depending on what type of 128MB card, it could be either stonkingly fast - Asus 128MB 6800GT for example or relatively crap such as a PCI-e Radion 9200 / FX5200.

More info!  ;D

[JFG389]

My Video card us a ChainTech G Force FX series PCI 128 mb.

It's the only one that works will with my motherboard. It works fine most of the time.

I do know AGP cards are supperior but they will not work on my mother board.

I don't know how to change to another mother board and mine is maxed out, for my proceesor XP 2400.
So I was just wondering, if a newer computer with 64 bit processing say  by Amd would work for my FS9, Pool game and Tiger Woods 2004 games, and of course for my writings.

Thanks You guys will 64 bit work for FS9

[Delta_]

A 64-bit processor will work, however it will run in 32-bit mode for FS9.  The performance of the new 64-bit processors is very good so it will really make your sim experience much better when coupled with a good graphics card (6600GT) and a good amount of RAM (1GB).

[richardd43]

I am running a 3200 Winnie with the new XP-64 bit OS and FS-9 works great.

I just loaded FS-9 last night and have not put any addons in yet but with a 6600GT PCI-E I can maintain 75 FPS with no problem.

With the FPS locked at 30 and everything else pretty much maxed out the only problem I have is the clouds look a little weird at dusk. Will look at that a little closer this evening and do some more tweaking to get them right.

[the_autopilot]

You will get no performence upgrade in fs2004 if you are only switching to 64-bit and nothing else is changed.

even in 64 bit OS's, the program must be designed to use 64-bit.

However, get a 64-bit CPU anyway cause that way you are future proof.

If you have farcry, a 64-bit patch is available.

[GunnerMan]

Yeah, the "64 bit" itself will give nothing unless coupled with 64 bit OS and application. The new 64 bit cpus are otherwise MUCH improved over the Athlon XPs, lower voltages, more efficiant, better mem controllers. You wont regret it

[congo]

"I don't know how to change to another mother board and mine is maxed out,"

You may have to buy a new power supply unit of at least 500 watts, or a new PC case that includes a 500w PSU. The PSU should be ATX2 standard as many newer mainboards require the extra 4 pin power connector that comes with ATX2 standard.

The mainboards are standard and are screwed to the case with a little care. Installing components is relatively easy, again care is required.

The  motherboard manual should show the PINOUT for the case wiring. Some cases/mainboards have strange wiring and sometimes a simple modification may need to be made to the case connecting wires.

It's fun to change mainboards!
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" for my proceesor XP 2400."

The XP 2400+ CPU runs on a 133mhz x 2 (DDR 266mhz) front side bus speed. The FSB speed determines how fast the data is processed on the PC as a whole. The FSB is mainboard/CPU dependant and they must be compatible.

As far as I'm aware, there is not a 2400+ 64 bit CPU. More than likely you will purchase an XP 3500+ (or greater) 64bit CPU which will thrust you into a new performance bracket.
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"So I was just wondering, if a newer computer with 64 bit processing say  by Amd would work for my FS9, Pool game and Tiger Woods 2004 games, and of course for my writings."

Yes, of course they should, the technology is reverse compatible and runs in 32 bit mode. Almost everyone who currently has a 64 bit rig is running 32 bit apps.
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"Forget the processor - an AMD 64 would be just fine anyhow - a far more important consideration is the Graphics card."

The CPU will make a huge difference in performance. A modern CPU is a different animal. The faster your CPU, the better your sim works.

Can anyone post a screenshot of their CPU usage showing less than 100% committed in FS9?

Of course, the Graphics card is extremely important, you won't be able to display all that power without a good one, and that's the bottom line.
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"You will get no performence upgrade in fs2004 if you are only switching to 64-bit and nothing else is changed. "

AMD 64bit CPU's run on mainboards with a typical FSB of 1000mhz DDR, which is almost 4 times faster than your current PC. This difference alone makes 64 bit PC's much faster, but only if the applications you use demand the extra performance. FS9 will demand that.
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"Yeah, the "64 bit" itself will give nothing unless coupled with 64 bit OS and application."

Well, I think it will help because there is the front side bus speed to consider and there is also the advantage of new PC3200 400mhz RAM, instead of his current PC2100 RAM.

Add to this the fact that the new RAM runs in DUAL CHANNEL mode, thus eliminating any bottlenecking on the bus, and we have a definite winner!
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A 64 bit upgrade will force major hardware changes, starting at chipset level.

Front side bus, CPU and RAM all run faster and more effectively.

New CPU process technology results in cooler, faster and smarter CPU's.

Speed is everything      ;)

[the_autopilot]

Lets get a couple things straight.

Can anyone post a screenshot of their CPU usage showing less than 100% committed in FS9?

yes

"You will get no performence upgrade in fs2004 if you are only switching to 64-bit and nothing else is changed. "

AMD 64bit CPU's run on mainboards with a typical FSB of 1000mhz DDR, which is almost 4 times faster than your current PC. This difference alone makes 64 bit PC's much faster, but only if the applications you use demand the extra performance. FS9 will demand that.

Yes, upgrading to faster memory with a faster mobo will of course yield better performence. I said only if the 64-bit was added without any other stuff. 64-bit ALONE does not increase performence. It does nothing to performence of apps that do not have 64-bit support.

"Yeah, the "64 bit" itself will give nothing unless coupled with 64 bit OS and application."

Well, I think it will help because there is the front side bus speed to consider and there is also the advantage of new PC3200 400mhz RAM, instead of his current PC2100 RAM.

Add to this the fact that the new RAM runs in DUAL CHANNEL mode, thus eliminating any bottlenecking on the bus, and we have a definite winner!

Again, the 64-bit will NOT increase performence. It is the faster memory that is boosting the performence, not the 64-bit support.

Let me reiterate:
64-bit dos NOT increase performence in fs2004. Faster memory will. Faster CPU will. Dual channel will. 64-BIT WILL NOT INCREASE PERFORMENCE IN A 32-BIT APPLICATION.

[congo]

Hey Autopilot,

I was just trying to clarify the fact that simply by going to 64 bit, he would see a dramatic improvement.

I knew you know the facts, even if you didn't know I knew.  As long as we all know now.  

Sometimes, even though we try to present facts objectively, they can be misconstrued by the novice while we take certain conclusions for granted.

I'm working on my communication skills.........  :P