OldAirmail wrote:logjam wrote:Yeah, well, it's not like flat, it's more like an inverted plate flat. You have to realise that the Earth is heavy like and bends a bit, that's why you see the horizon as sorta curved. Believe me it's flat.

This effect is very easy to confirm.
Take a Cessna 150 up to about 42,361 (+ or - 3) feet and you can see where it sags at the edges.
OldAirmail, I have been to FL450 several times in various LearJets. I can confirm that at that altitude the flat Earth with its slowly downward bending edges is very apparent. The sky is a "perfect black" up there and the stars are so bright and clear that its quite moving the first time you see it. Too bad your C-150 can only do FL420. Perhaps a TurboCharger installation would get you the extra climb and alt.
And thanks for posting that Documentary film about the 1950 Moon landing. I thought I was the only one that knew about it. Everybody else seems to be fixated on the theatrical presentation about a " first landing" on the Moon in 1969. That didn't fool me for a minute. When a real Moon landing is imminent, the Cows all form a circle facing each other and say something that sounds like "mooooooo". If its just a movie, they eat grass and look bored. Every farmer knows that.
And FOZZER, I too have experienced ASTROPHYSICS whereby my ass clamped shut violently when I cruised into a tight curve on the highway at high speed on my Motorcyles. Its a feeling that you never forget if you are lucky enough to live through it. Its similar to how I felt at my Wedding when I heard a voice that sounded like mine saying..........." I DO".