FSX crash, no hope

[Speed of flight]

Interesting read:
On the FSX SP2 page, it says that (since the link is dead), that if you don't have an internet connection, you can install DirectX from your hard drive. It is kept in the main folder, default is C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Setup\DX

Note: looking for this folder and/or file, the "setup" folder isn't even in there. I wonder if that is making problems?
Anybody else see that theirs is absent?

[garymbuska]

I do not have FSX installed at the default location and I see no such folder anywhere in my FSX.
I purchased FSX gold which has the acceleration disk with it. I originally had the deluxe edition but When I switched to Windows 8 64 bit FSX deluxe would not install
From everything I have read acceleration has all the service packs on it. If the acceleration copy you have was not part of a set Than That is your problem Acceleration was first released separately and had no service packs on it. FSX Gold edition was released later and comes with Acceleration which has the service packs on it.

[Speed of flight]

Still working on another fresh install of Windows 7, then win7 SP1, and that's it. I think the problem lies with windows update. I've become rather trusting of the updates offered by Microsoft, and that may prove to be my folly. So now, win7, SP1, all necessary drivers, and then FSX and acceleration. Hope I've learned something to benefit any who have just had the same problem.

I got FSX the day it released. In a shiny gold box, deluxe edition, because at the time, it was the only way to get ATC. When Acceleration came out, I got it that day, also. The versions I have are as original as can be. Two separate boxes. Browsing the acceleration disc, FSX SP1 is in it. During install, when the readme opens, it says that FSX sp1 must be installed first. If you don't have it, it will download and install it for you. I have to assume it is doing that, because I get no broken link warnings or installation errors at all. But that's all I have to go on.

So here goes. DVD: check...

[Fozzer]

So here goes. DVD: check...

...Paul......with baited breath!... ....!

.... ... ... ...!

[Speed of flight]

Well I must say that although I haven't completely fixed my problem, that at least now I may be able to fix it.
A bare-bones install has yielded a CTD every time, and I'm even now getting faulty module info, whereas before, there was none.
A least now I can start troubleshooting the program, and resolving the issue.
I installed .net 4.0, and I think it's not enough, so I'm installing also .net 4.5 framework, which may solve my comparability issue.

I feel the force at work...

[Bass]

I wonder if maybe a windows update causes a conflict. Example: any AMD catalyst drivers after 13.2 cause graphics issues. Any thoughts on "planed obsolescence"? Or am I being suspicious?

NO, you're not suspicious!!!!
I'm in the same boat as you are, and i've found out that a windows normal update just messed up my system
My conclusion is, they do it on purpose! They want you to get so tired on reinstalling what you got and then force you to to bye new products

[Speed of flight]

It wouldn't be so terrible if they had or are going to have something to supercede it with. To kill their own material, especially the way they did it, well that just says to me that if Microsoft were a person, he'd be a self-loathing massachist. Kill one if your own best products irreparably. Like sawing off your nose to spare your face. Anybody else would say, "What the #€[[ is wrong with you?", Microsoft says "hurts so good!"
I am reluctant to install the 148 updates that windows is saying I need, even the needed ones, although it doesn't seem to care. A fresh install, SP1, and then FSX still doesn't work. Just one day, POW! It blew up, never to work again.
Has anyone else been updated and had FSX ride off into the sunset? Is this a real thing? Not just me?

[Speed of flight]

So I just tried turning all the scenery sliders all the way down, and voila! It stayed in the air! I read on some weirdo forum that another guy tried turning settings down and see what happens. So, suddenly, the settings I've had on my system for years don't work anymore. So, I can fly over flat beige ground with no buildings, or dark blue glass with no waves with no problems! Odd, because not long ago, I had every setting all the way up, minus of course the freeway traffic gridlock (I hate it in real life, why have it in the sim?) Besides, I don't care what cars are doing, we're flying! It's very taxing on the sim, for a completely unneeded task.
So, now that we have the availability to run the kind of hardware that FSX demanded, they're going to kill it some other way. I don't get it.

[Speed of flight]

Well that was it. Apparently, I can't keep my graphics tab settings anymore. So where it's been running all this time is now seemingly too much for my system, which is (as most are now) well beyond what FSX ever needed to run.
So, something happened, and I can't tell you what, but something changed my ability to keep all the sliders to the right. Maybe my GPU is starting to go, or the MoBo, something. I haven't a clue.

So, something of stepping back into the XP days. Even now with all the available tweaks, it's now overburdened. So, I don't know what to do other than turn it down some. This won't do, however. Something will be done.

Flying, be back in a while...

[Fozzer]

......So, I don't know what to do......

Speedy.... ...

Have you thought about taking up Fly Fishing, as an alternative?.... ...!

Paul..Full of good Alternatives... ...!

[mrplanecrazzy]

Not sure if this will help, but have you installed UIAutomationcore.dll module? It always fixes my CTD when I do a clean install.

[Capt_Cronic]

have you tried a video card benchmark test to see if your video card is still working properly ?
this really sounds like a hardware failure.

[pegger]

Have you applied any cfg tweaks yet. Maybe infinity mask or some of the others dealing with processor and gpu functions will help. I recall a tweak to deal with gpu's specifically, but i din't remember what it was about or where to find it.

[Speed of flight]

I've read that there are 2 "stages" of the UIAutomationcore.dll tweak:
1 is simply placing one of the 2 vista versions in your FSX main file, and I have done both, but no good.
2 is to use a cmd prompt to "take ownership" of the Win7 versions, and cause all sorts of havoc with programs that may need them, and I haven't really been willing to try that yet.

Yes, it almost sounds like an impending hardware failure, as I've always run my settings at a level that I can't seem to anymore. I haven't a clue what happened.

I have run a multitude of benchmark programs (furmark, other dx10 stuff, some dx11 ones) but no problem. It takes them in stride, with no problems, like nothing is wrong. Run FSX, though, and the downward spiral.

I have applied the "highmemfix=1 graphics tweak in the cfg, the Affinitymask, all the normal ones, as I always have, but it just doesn't seem to help. It just started crashing one day, and nothing I can do will bring it back. Quite a riddle/mystery.

Lots of good ideas, and I thank you for your replies. I don't know what happened, or what to do to fix it. Very odd.

Fozzer: I'm even considering golf again. I tried to tell my wife that I need this for the good of our family, as it is far cheaper than me trying for my commercial pilot's license...

[Speed of flight]

Questions for a technically-minded individual:
1. Can someone explain to me how the GPU and system RAM communicate? I know that at some level, the GPU shares RAM, but has it's own on-board, so why?
2. Specs are in my sig. What are the odds of the GPU bottle-necking my system RAM? Reason: I throttled down rated 2400 MHz C10 Gskill to 2133 MHz c10. No crash. Flew SFO to Hawaii.
Possible that an AMD 7870 is incapable of running with 2400 MHz RAM if they share it? If they do share, that would imply that the GPU RAM is 1200 MHz (x4, for GDDR5, or whatever, but the stock clock reports 1200x4) trying to keep up with 2400 MHz. That would be a 100% overclock for it, if I'm not way out in left field. In any event, it ran flawlessly with slower freq. and settings maxed. Says to me, that's the conflict. GPU<>Ram problem.
3. Somebody explain to me that if any part of this has some value, how to tell the wife that I need the R9 290X...