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Re: For Ozzy (seafire)

Postby Smoke2much » Mon Apr 19, 2004 10:52 am

Now that looks like a steamer under steam.  Thank you Doug.  I'll get in contact with them asap.

Beautiful shot BTW.

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Re: For Ozzy (seafire)

Postby Smoke2much » Mon Apr 19, 2004 10:55 am

The convoys were for Merchant vessels with a max speed of between 9 and 19 knots. :P At 29 knots not even the escort would keep up.


It was a joke.  The wind over the bow gave a IAS of 29 knots before take off in heavy weather.

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Re: For Ozzy (seafire)

Postby Woodlouse2002 » Mon Apr 19, 2004 11:35 am

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It was a joke.
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Re: For Ozzy (seafire)

Postby Hagar » Mon Apr 19, 2004 11:58 am

I have a better shot somewhere but this will do for now. The Fox Four fleet taken some months ago. New ships are being added all the time.

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Re: For Ozzy (seafire)

Postby HawkerTempest5 » Mon Apr 19, 2004 12:22 pm

[quote]The airfile is definately out though.
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Re: For Ozzy (seafire)

Postby Collin » Mon Apr 19, 2004 4:30 pm

Hi guys, Hagar emailed me about some questions arising.

Smoke2much, you haven't said what type of convoy you are making. There were 3 basic one's- slow, fast and troop.
The large liners tended to be grouped into convoys of 5 or less, the escorts if any would be cruisers, sometimes they would go it alone at full speed until they neared the shores, then would pick up escort which would guide them through swept channels. They would zigzag, with its attending dangers as the Queen Mary found out when she ran down a cruiser. These convoys tended to start from around Florida and go to Liverpool via North of Ireland. Others would start at New York, go to Miami then onto liverpool or Capetown, Darwin.
Slow convoys would have corvette escort  with some older destroyers, and fast would have fleet destroyers.
Only the Malta and Murmansk convoys had fleet carrier escort.
Smoke was a problem from old steamers but warships made as little as possible as this reflected on the efficiency of the engineering dept.
The C type destroyer of 44 vintage will have the correct textures for you.
If you have any questions please pm or email me.

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Re: For Ozzy (seafire)

Postby Woodlouse2002 » Mon Apr 19, 2004 4:36 pm

Only the Malta and Murmansk convoys had fleet carrier escort.

From about '43 onwards there were escort carriers avaliable for the North Atlantic run.
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Re: For Ozzy (seafire)

Postby Collin » Mon Apr 19, 2004 5:01 pm

Escort carriers were available from 39 with HMS Argus, but from 43, with the developement of the converted liberty ships, there were enough cve's not only for the convoys but also for the Support Groups that operated against the Uboats in the Atlantic including the American ones which also raided the Uboat supply posts on the South American coast.

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Re: For Ozzy (seafire)

Postby Woodlouse2002 » Mon Apr 19, 2004 5:04 pm

The man knows his stuff. ::) ;D ;)
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