is this legal???????

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is this legal???????

Postby firemonte007 » Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:20 pm

I saw this Cessna at my home airport last night and i dont know if i would have flown this in like this...is this even safe? let alone legal to fly?

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Re: is this legal???????

Postby skoker » Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:24 pm

Yep it's legal.  the skin of a plane is for aerodynamic purposes only.  I see it done all the time with flap canoes and things like that. ;)
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Re: is this legal???????

Postby Willit Run » Sun Jun 21, 2009 9:10 pm

....and banner planes!!

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Re: is this legal???????

Postby DaveSims » Sun Jun 21, 2009 9:26 pm

I wouldn't recommend it much though.  Air cooled engines need the cowling to help force the air over the cylinders and keep cool.  As for half a cowl, I imagine it would soon be pulled off by the 100+mph wind it will encounter.
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Postby beaky » Mon Jun 22, 2009 7:57 am

It is legal, and the only reason cowlings and internal baffles are designed to force air over the cylinders is because that is necessary when there is a cowling. ;D

Banner-tow airplanes don't fly without cowlings (or baffles) because their owners can't afford cowlings... it cools the engine much better, and the aerodynamic penalty is negligible because they are not trying to go fast (and can't, really, towing a huge, draggy banner).

The remaining part won't come off if it is attached properly, but with this particular Cessna I do see one problem: no air filter. You wouldn't want to operate that engine for very long without one, and I think most banner-tow airplanes have some sort of rig to keep a filter on the intake despite the lack of a cowling.
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Re: is this legal???????

Postby firemonte007 » Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:39 am

thank you for the insight guys...i just thought this was wierd to see on the tarmac
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Re: is this legal???????

Postby expat » Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:04 am

You don't want to know what the average cigar tube can fly without :o :o

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Re: is this legal???????

Postby specter177 » Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:21 am

Did you actually see it fly? Cause it could just be sitting there waiting for maintenance.
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Postby ShaneG_old » Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:28 am

You don't want to know what the average cigar tube can fly without :o :o

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Re: is this legal???????

Postby skoker » Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:42 am

You don't want to know what the average cigar tube can fly without :o :o

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Re: is this legal???????

Postby beaky » Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:59 pm

Did you actually see it fly? Cause it could just be sitting there waiting for maintenance.

True... looking at it again, I think it could be chancy flying it like that because of the exposed baffling... not really made to meet theslipstream head-on like that (?).
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Re: is this legal???????

Postby Roughrider » Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:14 pm

Did you actually see it fly? Cause it could just be sitting there waiting for maintenance.

True... looking at it again, I think it could be chancy flying it like that because of the exposed baffling... not really made to meet theslipstream head-on like that (?).



Sean, you think that is chancy, I seem to remember you flying around without the skin on top of the wing!!!!!!!!    :o  I couldn't resist!!!!!
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Re: is this legal???????

Postby BigTruck » Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:28 pm

Did you actually see it fly? Cause it could just be sitting there waiting for maintenance.

True... looking at it again, I think it could be chancy flying it like that because of the exposed baffling... not really made to meet theslipstream head-on like that (?).



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Re: is this legal???????

Postby Hagar » Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:40 pm

I saw this Cessna at my home airport last night and i dont know if i would have flown this in like this...is this even safe? let alone legal to fly?

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If it flew in like that did it occur to you that the lower cowling might have dropped off en route? ;)
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Postby Roughrider » Mon Jun 22, 2009 3:03 pm

Did you actually see it fly? Cause it could just be sitting there waiting for maintenance.

True... looking at it again, I think it could be chancy flying it like that because of the exposed baffling... not really made to meet theslipstream head-on like that (?).



Sean, you think that is chancy, I seem to remember you flying around without the skin on top of the wing!!!!!!!!
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