Considering a DSLR Camera

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Re: Considering a DSLR Camera

Postby BFMF » Mon Jan 05, 2009 4:32 pm

I decided to get the 40D
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Re: Considering a DSLR Camera

Postby Omag 2.0 » Mon Jan 05, 2009 5:38 pm

You can't go wrong with that decision! Good luck with the camera!  ;)
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Re: Considering a DSLR Camera

Postby 61_OTU » Mon Jan 05, 2009 6:53 pm

You'll be over the moon with it, but take Ken's advice and learn about photography....find a course to take, it's invaluable.

Learn how to use the shutter and aperture priority to get different effects, Auto is for wimps  ;)

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Re: Considering a DSLR Camera

Postby BFMF » Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:51 pm

Oh, I fully intend to learn as much about photography as I can. I'm going to be getting the book that BigTruck suggested to start with...
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Re: Considering a DSLR Camera

Postby 61_OTU » Tue Jan 06, 2009 5:57 pm

Oh, I fully intend to learn as much about photography as I can. I'm going to be getting the book that BigTruck suggested to start with...


Good for you. I've bought a book on portrait photography, and have just had two more from Mrs OTU on exposure and composition, they're all reslly useful, even if only to reassure you that what you are thinking is close to the money. They are also a good source of inspiration and advice.

Let us know how you get on Andrew, ask plenty of questions

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Re: Considering a DSLR Camera

Postby BFMF » Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:35 pm

Let us know how you get on Andrew, ask plenty of questions


I'm sure I will

My main thing is trying to figure out the aperture, f-stop, ISO, ect and how they all work together...
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Re: Considering a DSLR Camera

Postby a1 » Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:49 pm

Let us know how you get on Andrew, ask plenty of questions


I'm sure I will

My main thing is trying to figure out the aperture, f-stop, ISO, ect and how they all work together...



Welcome to the world of manual photography with a DSLR. ;) I have the same problems as you do. I just work from Auto and move up to Tv and Av. I don't use Manual because I take macro and different picture styles I just don't have time to adjust the settings every time light changes.


Great choice on the 40D. I have the 30D myself and all I can tell is is that it is incredibly flexible. ;)
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Re: Considering a DSLR Camera

Postby BFMF » Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:22 pm

Yep, I've got so much to learn...lol

But i'm really looking forward to being able to start learning more and more about photography

I have a couple friends who have the 30D, and they love it.
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Re: Considering a DSLR Camera

Postby 61_OTU » Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:30 am

Let us know how you get on Andrew, ask plenty of questions


I'm sure I will

My main thing is trying to figure out the aperture, f-stop, ISO, ect and how they all work together...


It's all about balance as they all affect how light enters and is interpreted by the camera.

Aperture and f-stop are the same thing, as f-stop is the way that the camera measures how wide or narrow the aperture is. The aperture is a diaphragm which sits behind the lens which controls how much light enters the camera. From a creative perspective the wider the aperture (f2.8 on my posh lens) then the more light enters the camera and the more shallow the depth of field, giving you a nice sharp subject with a lovely blurred background. If you want to increase the depth of field and have a whole landscape in focus then you need to close the aperture down (f32), this reduces the amount of light which enters the camera however, which means that the shutter needs to stay open longer, and will require a tripod

Shutter speed is the length of time the camera allows light to pass through the aperture. The shutter speed must always be proportionate to the available light and aperture in order to get the correct exposure and make sure that the image is neither too light or too dark. Fast or slow shutter speeds can be used creatively to either blur or freeze motion depending on what effect you want to achieve.

ISO on a DSLR affects the sensitivity of the sensor, with low ISO's capturing less light with better quality, and high ISO's capturing more light but with more associated noise in the image. So if set to ISO100 you will get a better quality shot, but will require wider apertures or longer shutter speeds to obtain the required light. ISO1600 will allow you to use smaller apertures, or faster shutter speeds, but will leave you with a more noisy shot. Sometimes this is a necessary compromise as it is better to get the shot and it be grainy, than lose it through camera shake or underexposure.

In order to balance these the camera will help a great deal.

By using Av (aperture priority) you can tell the camera that you want to keep all shots at the widest aperture, either because this will give you an artistic depth of field or because you know that you want to get the fastest shutter speeds available to you in order to freeze action. Or by forcing the camera up to f32 then you are dictating the larger depth of field (area in focus) that you want to achieve in a landscape shot, and leaving the camera to sort out the shutter speed.

If you want to deliberately blur motion in a shot, then selecting Tv (Shutter priority) and forcing the shutter speed down to 1/160th then you can get good rotor blur on most choppers. The camera will then automatically adjust the aperture to only allow enough light through to correctly expose the shot. Using Tv to select high shutter speeds is less advisable, as there may not be enough light available for the speed that you think you need.

ISO then allows you to push the boundaries a little, for best quality you will want to keep the camera on ISO100, but if you really want to freeze action and get sharp shots of fast motorbikes or birds in flight, then you may up the ISO to 400. If the light is really bad but you can't risk blurred shots from motion or camera shake, then you may push it to 800. If the light is awful, but flash is a no-no, then ISO1600 is better used than missing the shot entirely.

Tv and Av modes are all about choices, and making them yourself rather than letting the camera decide how your shots look creatively. once you have got used to these choices then you can start making all the choices yourself in the M manual mode. This is particularly useful when using flash or when other light sources in a location could fool the light meter in your camera. By using manual you determine exactly what aperture and speed you require, check your results, and then shoot away happy in the knowledge that providing the light available stays the same then your results will be consistent.

My advice.....stick with Av 99.9% of the time, and simply close or open the aperture to achieve the depth of field or shutter speed you require. You want silky flowing water, close the aperture to bump up the shutter speed. You want to freeze action, open the aperture wide to f2.8 or the lowest f-stop you have to drag the shutter speed right down. Only use Tv when something with rotors comes past, nothing worse than badfrozenprops
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Re: Considering a DSLR Camera

Postby Roughrider » Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:03 am

Wow, Steve, great job explaining. It would have taken me 3 days to type all that. Mark
 

Also Andrew, nice purchase, I'm jealous.  We expect some great shot from you.
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Re: Considering a DSLR Camera

Postby 61_OTU » Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:34 am

Wow, Steve, great job explaining. It would have taken me 3 days to type all that. Mark


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Re: Considering a DSLR Camera

Postby BFMF » Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:05 pm

Wow, i'm printing that up right now. Thanks Steve...! 8-)
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Re: Considering a DSLR Camera

Postby Omag 2.0 » Wed Jan 07, 2009 4:22 pm

You must think of the three elements that must be in balance to become a good photo.

Shutterspeed, aperature and ISO must be in balance. How you set up that balance defines the endresult of the shot...

Aperature: wider open is more blurred background

Shuttertime: the faster the shuttertime, the more you "freeze" the action

ISO: the higher the value, the more sensitive the sensor... and the bigger the amount of noise...

Now, go forth and experiment with your toy, young padwan, you'll become a true master soon....  ;D
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Re: Considering a DSLR Camera

Postby BFMF » Wed Jan 07, 2009 6:31 pm

I just hope I can master the camera, or atleast know how to take decent photos before the airshow season starts...
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Re: Considering a DSLR Camera

Postby a1 » Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:12 pm

I just hope I can master the camera, or atleast know how to take decent photos before the airshow season starts...



Don't worry about it. The EOS system is simple to master. Just get the right lens for telephoto and understand the basics of Shutter ISO and Aperture.
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