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Postby expat » Sat Aug 30, 2008 12:12 pm

After a 13 hour shift yesterday caused by an engine change, I found a bit of "Me" time in my coffee break today. I managed to catch some smoke. The Air Bus, is not three different aircraft ;D

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2. And, if you have time to write the fault on a napkin and attach to it to the yoke.........you have time to write it in the tech log....see point 1.
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Re: Smokin!!

Postby Brando14100 » Sat Aug 30, 2008 2:36 pm

Nice. Touchdown shots are cool. The Airbus looked like it had a bit of a rough landing. Not quite level on the touchdown. Just making sure the passengers are awake to get off.

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Re: Smokin!!

Postby Mictheslik » Sat Aug 30, 2008 3:41 pm

old livery is much nicer than the new one IMO........;)

Lovely smoky shots matt :)

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Re: Smokin!!

Postby Brando14100 » Sat Aug 30, 2008 3:47 pm

old livery is much nicer than the new one IMO........;)

Lovely smoky shots matt :)

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Definately better.

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Re: Smokin!!

Postby a1 » Sat Aug 30, 2008 4:21 pm

Very nice tire smoke. 8-)
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Re: Smokin!!

Postby Willit Run » Sat Aug 30, 2008 11:01 pm

Great shots!!

Boy, they seem to be coming in pretty hard!!  I can't get smoke shots like that at PHL!!  They seem to bring them in nice and easy there!!
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Re: Smokin!!

Postby expat » Sun Aug 31, 2008 1:59 am

[quote]Great shots!!

Boy, they seem to be coming in pretty hard!!
"A bit of a pickle" - British translation: A catastrophically bad situation with potentially fatal consequences.

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2. And, if you have time to write the fault on a napkin and attach to it to the yoke.........you have time to write it in the tech log....see point 1.
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Re: Smokin!!

Postby BigTruck » Sun Aug 31, 2008 3:16 am

[quote][quote]Great shots!!

Boy, they seem to be coming in pretty hard!!
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Re: Smokin!!

Postby Mictheslik » Sun Aug 31, 2008 4:34 am

Great shots!!

Boy, they seem to be coming in pretty hard!!  I can't get smoke shots like that at PHL!!  They seem to bring them in nice and easy there!!



Funny you should mention this, because I happened to ask a couple of crews recently about the amount of smoke produced. I say a couple because I was a little skeptical about the answer from the first crew. I thought it was linked to landing weight, but the answer is a little surprising. The harder the landing the less smoke that is produced and the softer the more. The reason is wheel run up. A harder landing will produce less smoke because the wheel speed run up is fairly instant (relatively speaking). A soft landing, the wheel speed run up to aircraft speed is longer. The wheel is in skid longer before the gear takes the full aircraft wieght thus transferring the aircraft speed into rotation of the wheels. Logical when you think about, and I have been doing this job for just short of 22 years and I have only just given it said thought. So all I can say is, they must nail them down in PHL ;D

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I never looked at it that way, I always assumed the more smoke the harder the landing, just a typical observation i guess, but your info puts it into a whole new perspective!


Very interesting Matt, but am I correct in saying smoke is also produced by the brakes being engaged, so if the pilot is a little edgy and hits the brakes on landing then you'll get a lovely puff of smoke :P

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Re: Smokin!!

Postby expat » Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:23 am

[quote][quote][quote][quote]Great shots!!

Boy, they seem to be coming in pretty hard!!
"A bit of a pickle" - British translation: A catastrophically bad situation with potentially fatal consequences.

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2. And, if you have time to write the fault on a napkin and attach to it to the yoke.........you have time to write it in the tech log....see point 1.
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Re: Smokin!!

Postby Omag 2.0 » Sun Aug 31, 2008 7:12 am

Military-style landing of the Air Berlin airbus... RIGHT-LEFT-RIGHT!  ;D
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Re: Smokin!!

Postby Roughrider » Sun Aug 31, 2008 7:23 am

I like smoke shots, and you seem to have the perfect spot.
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Re: Smokin!!

Postby expat » Sun Aug 31, 2008 8:37 am

I like smoke shots, and you seem to have the perfect spot.



The perfect ID helps too ;D

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Re: Smokin!!

Postby Willit Run » Sun Aug 31, 2008 7:22 pm

That's interesting!!  I would have thought it was the other way!!  I guess they are coming into PHL hard.  I was on a U S Airways 757 that came in so hard I thought the landing gear was going to come up through the aircraft!! :D
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