Which camera?

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Which camera?

Postby SubZer0 » Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:57 pm

Hey guys. I've been wanting to go spotting for a while now but the fact that my camera sucks (Canon PowerShot SD450 5.0MP) has been stopping me. However, it would still be a great experience for me just to see planes close up. A friend of mine and I have decided to go on Friday at KPBI at about 2pm ET and I'll be taking my crappy camera just to get SOME shots, but of course they'll suck.

I want to get a good camera that's not too expensive and is for absolute beginners, but one that can take great shots. What do you guys recommend for me as a beginner?
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Re: Which camera?

Postby evanatorx » Wed Dec 26, 2007 2:03 pm

The Sony Cybershot series is good becuase you can manipulate all of the settings like WB, Aperture, exposure. Yet if you just want to snap photos without worrying about settings, the auto mode works great, dead easy to use.

I have had two (and one camcorder/camera) and I have really enjoyed them.
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Re: Which camera?

Postby flyboy 28 » Wed Dec 26, 2007 2:04 pm

Canon has a great line of entry-level DSLR's. Look into a 350D/XT or 400D/XTi. You'll also need a lens, anywhere from 150 to 400mm depending on where you spot from. My personal setup is a Canon 400D with a Tamron 70-300mm, Canon 28-105mm and Canon 18-55mm lenses.

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Re: Which camera?

Postby MWISimmer » Wed Dec 26, 2007 2:13 pm

If DSLR is too expensive you could always try a "bridge" camera. Lumix FZ ranges and Fuji s9*** and s5*** ranges spring to mind.

Whatever you decide on, go into your local retailer and try them out first. Make sure you get them to think you'll be buying from them. I took memory cards for the 2 cameras I was interested in and took a few random snaps, loaded up them up on my home PC and compared the results, helping me make a decision.

Also take a look here http://www.dpreview.com/ for some indepth reviews about all the latest (and some old) cameras.
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Re: Which camera?

Postby SubZer0 » Wed Dec 26, 2007 2:18 pm

Have been looking at the S5700 (Saw it here) and that is affordable for me. Would that be good for a beginner? I can learn quickly, just don't want to waste my money, so I don't mind if it has too many options.
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Re: Which camera?

Postby MWISimmer » Wed Dec 26, 2007 2:33 pm

Have been looking at the S5700 (Saw it here) and that is affordable for me. Would that be good for a beginner? I can learn quickly, just don't want to waste my money, so I don't mind if it has too many options.

I'd say that would be perfect for a beginner, but most Fujis are. They're quite simple and straightforward to use, and take excellent photos with good colour depth. Lots of settings mean that it will take a lot of learning once you get into setting aperture and ISO but as an "out of the box" camera it will do from the off.
Don't forget to look at the Panasonic Lumix range too, there's not a lot to choose between the 2 brands.
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Re: Which camera?

Postby Craig. » Wed Dec 26, 2007 2:50 pm

A fuji was my first serious camera after a recommendation from Rifleman here 4 years back or so. It wasn't my first camera but certainly the first I used seriously, the shots it produced were really good and it was really easy to use. I recommend them as a good starting platform.
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Re: Which camera?

Postby Hagar » Wed Dec 26, 2007 3:15 pm

There's nothing stopping you going spotting. Some people do it with nothing more than a notebook & a pencil. Are you interested in static ground shots or aircraft in the air? Depending on how close you can get to the aircraft you might be surprised at the performance of the camera you already have. Apart from the 3x zoom compared with 10x it's a much better spec than my first bridge camera, a Fuji S5000. No complaints with the camera but on looking back I wish I'd put the money I spent on it towards a DSLR.

The Fuji S5700 looks extremely good value for money. Bridge cameras have improved a lot since I got mine but they still have some drawbacks compared with a proper DSLR. It really depends on how serious you are on this photography lark & what you want to do with the photos you take. Take Omag's CharlottesDad's advice & go & try some out at your local camera shop. Don't rush into it.
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Re: Which camera?

Postby SubZer0 » Wed Dec 26, 2007 3:32 pm

I'll definately go try them out at shops around here.

I'd like to take shots of both in the air and on the ground. I'd also like to make posters of the shots I take if they come out to be really good.

For now, I'll make sure just to stop by the shops and test out all I can. Thank you guys for your help.  

Hope your holidays are going well  ;D

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Re: Which camera?

Postby Omag 2.0 » Wed Dec 26, 2007 3:43 pm

Take Omag's advice & go & try some out at your local camera shop. Don't rush into it.


That would be Charlottesdad's advice...  :P ;D

But I second it. My 2 cents? First and for all, set a budget. Look what's available in that range.

option 1) The bridgecamera ( or superzoom): Small, a big optical zoom ( 10 - 12 - 18x), you can learn to control all the settings as on a dSLR and you don't have to buy additional lenses. Personally I have a Panasonic Lumix FZ5. Look at the newer models like the FZ8 and FZ18. Fuji is also known for great value for money. They especially have a low noise advantage. Click the link in my signature on what type of shots you might get with a bridge.

option 2) dSLR. Far superior in quality IF you are dedicated to invest some money and time in the hobby. I recently bought my Canon 400D and I'm still figuring out all the controls and how it behaves. Don't be fooled by the low prices on the Canon 350 or Nikon D40. Though they are good camera's, you'll still have to buy additional lenses. My set-up ( 400D + kitlens EF-S 18 - 55 mm + Canon 70 - 300 mm IS) will have cost me about
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Re: Which camera?

Postby Rifleman » Wed Dec 26, 2007 7:12 pm

Take Omag's advice & go & try some out at your local camera shop. Don't rush into it.


That would be Charlottesdad's advice...
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Re: Which camera?

Postby SubZer0 » Wed Dec 26, 2007 10:06 pm

That reminds me, my computer graphics teacher in school is also a photography teacher. I'll talk to him and see what he says, but I really don't want to rush into this and waste my money. I'll read as much as I can before buying anything, even if it's fairly cheap.
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Re: Which camera?

Postby MrRooney » Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:53 am

I'd reccomend the Fuji s5700 for a first digital camera aswell, it takes both xd and sd memory cards which is a bonus.
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Re: Which camera?

Postby pepper_airborne » Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:48 am

I can also recommend the FZ-8/18, although when your in that price range it is only a small jump to a EOS 300D. There really light and small though, wich can be quite an advantage.
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Re: Which camera?

Postby BAW0343 » Fri Dec 28, 2007 2:19 am

I'm a fan of the 400D  Its my first DSLR camera and is quite nice.  Also bought a Tamron 75-300mm and have gotten some nice images. I'm just lacking the knowledge to get some really good shots.

If i were you I'd get a Bridge camera as has been mentioned. However If you do think you can get serious and don't mind putting down some green,  get a DSLR. The body will last a long time and you can always buy a new lens if your interest changes.
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