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Lineage 1000/E-190

Postby chornedsnorkack » Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:29 am

Embraer has completed Lineage 1000. It flew to a third party interior outfitter and should reach customer sometime in summer.
http://www.embraer.com/english/content/ ... sp?id=1744

Can anyone explain just how Lineage 1000 is different from E-190?

Longer range. Of course a plane flies farther with a smaller payload. But Lineage 1000 imagery at Embraer website features tanks in wings as well as belly hold.

Well, having extra fuel tanks in belly hold limits the luggage capacity, which is not welcome on flights cramped with passengers, baggage and cargo. But Boeing 737-700/BBJ and Airbus 319CJ/LR have options for different numbers of belly tanks according to the desired range and payload.

Wing... does it have any extra tanks that E190 does not have? If yes, why does E190 not have them?

Also, I have heard it alleged that the MTOW of Lineage 1000 is heavier than MTOW of E-190. The numbers quoted were 52 t max for E190, up to 55 t on Lineage 1000. Can anyone confirm?

In which sense is Lineage 1000 a plane for "up to 19" passengers? E-190 has 114 passengers - not much fewer than ACJ or B737-700. BBJs fly with, like, 48 or 50 seats for Privatair and ANA. ACJ has 48 seats for Privatair and 82 seats for Air France Dedicate.

If you wanted, could you take a Lineage 1000, install, say, 48 seats with 16 rows of 3 abreast seats at 50 inch pitch, and fly it on long and thin routes at a lower trip cost than A319 or B737 would have?
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Re: Lineage 1000/E-190

Postby Ivan » Thu Dec 20, 2007 2:17 am

Can anyone explain just how Lineage 1000 is different from E-190?

Longer range. Of course a plane flies farther with a smaller payload. But Lineage 1000 imagery at Embraer website features tanks in wings as well as belly hold.

Well, having extra fuel tanks in belly hold limits the luggage capacity, which is not welcome on flights cramped with passengers, baggage and cargo. But Boeing 737-700/BBJ and Airbus 319CJ/LR have options for different numbers of belly tanks according to the desired range and payload.

Wing... does it have any extra tanks that E190 does not have? If yes, why does E190 not have them?

E190 is a dedicated shortrange... Tanks = less payload

Also, I have heard it alleged that the MTOW of Lineage 1000 is heavier than MTOW of E-190. The numbers quoted were 52 t max for E190, up to 55 t on Lineage 1000. Can anyone confirm?

Dunno, but i suspect that the tanks and systems added give more weight... Legacys are heavier than normal E135s because the center tank is bigger (with a bigger wingbox)

In which sense is Lineage 1000 a plane for "up to 19" passengers? E-190 has 114 passengers - not much fewer than ACJ or B737-700. BBJs fly with, like, 48 or 50 seats for Privatair and ANA. ACJ has 48 seats for Privatair and 82 seats for Air France Dedicate.

Seat pitch, market demand.
Dont know the range but i dont think that its meant to compete in the ACJ/BBJ segment

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If you wanted, could you take a Lineage 1000, install, say, 48 seats with 16 rows of 3 abreast seats at 50 inch pitch, and fly it on long and thin routes at a lower trip cost than A319 or B737 would have?
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