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#1 Use for a Time Machine

Postby Webb » Sun Jul 01, 2012 1:50 am

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Re: #1 Use for a Time Machine

Postby beaky » Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:09 pm

I never got all the popular puzzlement over the "paradoxes" involved in traveling into the past... tinkering with the past would not change anything you remember, or your future. Simple logic dictates that you'd only create an alternate future, the moment you arrived in the past. Let's face it, if he hadn't enjoyed his 12-year spree, nobody would be interested in going back to kill him. Go back in time, kill Hitler, go home, and you'd find him still there in the history books, etc., etc. Nothing would miraculously stop you from killing some other Hitler-
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Re: #1 Use for a Time Machine

Postby Xpand » Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:21 pm

Nope, just go back to the dawn of civilization and kill anyone who comes up with the idea of god/gods. Many if not all world's problems would be solved and we would now be 200 years ahead in science and technology... ;D
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Re: #1 Use for a Time Machine

Postby jetprop » Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:16 am

If you killed hitler AFTER he did what he did,you'd only change the fact about his suicide.

You can't kill him before he did stuff because then he'd never have done those stuff,so you wouldn't kill an inocent person.

So;you couldn't kill hitler before he did the stuff that he did.
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Re: #1 Use for a Time Machine

Postby Steve Hess » Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:17 am

I'd go back in time over and over again to keep people from going off topic on forum posts.
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Re: #1 Use for a Time Machine

Postby Strategic Retreat » Tue Jul 03, 2012 1:33 pm

If it would be possible form a future to travel in time to kill Hitler or whoever else, and a decision was taken about this to happen, we would know already, don't you agree? I mean, in the historical chronicles of the WW2 surely would be written if Hitler was at any point of his villainous career assassinated by an odd bloke dressed in a strange uniform using a futuristic tech to move about or something. ;D

I mean witnessing an assassination mission in the style: "open a time portal near Hitler, get out of said portal, point your gun at the bastard, squeeze the trigger and keep it squeezed until the magazine is empty, re-enter the portal to go home. Mission accomplished" WOULD BE remembered as odd.

Of course, if it's true that multiple and parallel (but parallel in an eleven dimensional way, which you need quite a lot of LSD to contemplate) instances of a universe can be created by such an act, we'd fall in the "serpent that bites its own tail" fact that a task force form the future may have very well offed the worm already by traveling back in time from their future... but we will never know, since our timeline is different than theirs and does not contemplate such a thing having happened, rendering meaningless any serious talk about it. ;)
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Re: #1 Use for a Time Machine

Postby andy190 » Tue Jul 03, 2012 6:00 pm

The Allies thought of assassinating Hitler but they went off the idea because they feared he would be replaced by someone actually competent at the job.

If Hitler hadn't meddled with the War Plans then the Allies might not have won the war.
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Re: #1 Use for a Time Machine

Postby expat » Wed Jul 04, 2012 7:40 am

A question that is hardly never asked, but what would the World/European population be today without the intervention of Hitler, or Stalin, or Saddam, in fact any dictator is history. Unsavoury I know, but war is a great way of thinning out the virus that man is..............

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Re: #1 Use for a Time Machine

Postby Strategic Retreat » Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:53 pm

The Allies thought of assassinating Hitler but they went off the idea because they feared he would be replaced by someone actually competent at the job.


That's true.


If Hitler hadn't meddled with the War Plans then the Allies might not have won the war.


More like he had all the military power in his hands, and none of the various generals could do anything without his approval. Remarkable feat obtained by laying down a hierarchical chain of command that was a waking nightmare of overlapping competences and responsibilities that made so that no one but him could ever have the last word on ANYTHING. All of this because of his belief that struggle would make for better fighters.

In short; he promoted infighting between his own ranks! The worst enemy and double agent of Adolf Hitler was Hitler Adolf. ::)

How the hell was her going to win against a sanely structured army is beyond anyone's guess, since EVERYTHING he ever did went in the face of the most basics rules of strategy. Rules acknowledged more than two millenniums ago already, in that treatise of rule of warring called "The Art of War" written in China and commonly attributed to Sun Tsu.

The only things he got right, to be fair, was the developing of a war always in motion instead of WWI-style trench warfare (the infamous blitzkrieg), and the aerial support of the infantry by diving bombers (only way at the time to have some sort of precision on where the payload would land), in all the rest he was an incompetent moron... thank God for the small blessings.


A question that is hardly never asked, but what would the World/European population be today without the intervention of Hitler, or Stalin, or Saddam, in fact any dictator is history. Unsavoury I know, but war is a great way of thinning out the virus that man is...


The second world war would have happened anyway. It's widely acknowledged that the way he first world war ended, especially between the French and the Germans, was just a scurrilous invitation to a re-igniting of the belligerences in less than two generations... and it happened.

Had an Adolf Hitler not existed... the war would have gone in wildly different ways impossible to fathom here and now, but would have happened all the same.
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Re: #1 Use for a Time Machine

Postby andy190 » Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:21 pm

The second world war would have happened anyway.


Yes it would.

When French Marshal Foch saw the Treaty of Versailles in 1919 he said: "This is not peace. It is an armistice for 20 years".

Along comes 1939 & what happens?
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Re: #1 Use for a Time Machine

Postby Mike.. » Thu Jul 05, 2012 5:27 pm

If you killed hitler AFTER he did what he did,you'd only change the fact about his suicide.

You can't kill him before he did stuff because then he'd never have done those stuff,so you wouldn't kill an inocent person.

So;you couldn't kill hitler before he did the stuff that he did.



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Re: #1 Use for a Time Machine

Postby Webb » Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:03 pm

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Re: #1 Use for a Time Machine

Postby Steve M » Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:44 pm

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But you would die of old age before you could post that.  :D As soon as you step into a time machine and transport yourself back to a time when time machines didn't exsist, you would be stuck in the past.  :-/
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Re: #1 Use for a Time Machine

Postby Strategic Retreat » Mon Jul 16, 2012 5:20 am

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But you would die of old age before you could post that.
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Re: #1 Use for a Time Machine

Postby Fozzer » Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:50 am

I just want the Time Machine to transport me 6 weeks, or so, into the future, when the dreaded "London Olympics" has finally gone away, and we can all get back to normal again, after suffering the expense and inconvenience of it for far too long.

Don't forget Chums, if you don't have access to a suitable Time Machine, seats for Fozzer's Space Flight to a luxurious hotel in the constellation of Alpha Centauri for the duration of the Olympics, is still available.
Many more Space Craft have been made available to cope with the enormous demand.
Book your flight now!

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