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Believe it or Not!

Postby WebbPA » Mon May 21, 2007 6:08 am

On May 21, 1927, Charles "Lucky" Lindbergh landed his single engine aircraft, "The Spirit of St. Louis" in Paris, winning the $25,000 Orteig Prize offered to the first allied aviator(s) to fly non-stop from New York City to Paris or vice-versa.

Two years later a little known Robert "Believe it or Not!" Ripley established his own claim to fame by publishing the fact that, contrary to popular perception, Lindbergh was the 67th man to make a non-stop flight over the Atlantic.  Unknown to most of the world, a two man British airplane made the Atlantic crossing in 1919. and that same year, an English dirigible flew it with a crew of 31 men. In 1924 a German dirigible repeated the Atlantic flight with its crew of 33. Link

The first non-stop flight in a heavier than air craft was accomplished by Alcock and Brown (Newfoundland to Ireland) in 1919, winning a
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Re: Believe it or Not!

Postby dcunning30 » Mon May 21, 2007 11:09 am

Also, Lindberg flew secret missions in the Pacific in P-38's.  His purpose was to go over there as technical advisor.  He ended up teaching P38 pilots how to get the best performance and fuel efficiency out of the aircraft for long range missions.

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Re: Believe it or Not!

Postby murjax » Fri May 25, 2007 8:51 am

[quote]On May 21, 1927, Charles "Lucky" Lindbergh landed his single engine aircraft, "The Spirit of St. Louis" in Paris, winning the $25,000 Orteig Prize offered to the first allied aviator(s) to fly non-stop from New York City to Paris or vice-versa.

Two years later a little known Robert "Believe it or Not!" Ripley established his own claim to fame by publishing the fact that, contrary to popular perception, Lindbergh was the 67th man to make a non-stop flight over the Atlantic.
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Re: Believe it or Not!

Postby Hagar » Fri May 25, 2007 9:11 am

[quote]The first non-stop flight in a heavier than air craft was accomplished by Alcock and Brown (Newfoundland to Ireland) in 1919, winning a
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Re: Believe it or Not!

Postby expat » Fri May 25, 2007 10:58 am

[quote][quote]On May 21, 1927, Charles "Lucky" Lindbergh landed his single engine aircraft, "The Spirit of St. Louis" in Paris, winning the $25,000 Orteig Prize offered to the first allied aviator(s) to fly non-stop from New York City to Paris or vice-versa.

Two years later a little known Robert "Believe it or Not!" Ripley established his own claim to fame by publishing the fact that, contrary to popular perception, Lindbergh was the 67th man to make a non-stop flight over the Atlantic.  Unknown to most of the world, a two man British airplane made the Atlantic crossing in 1919. and that same year, an English dirigible flew it with a crew of 31 men. In 1924 a German dirigible repeated the Atlantic flight with its crew of 33. Link

The first non-stop flight in a heavier than air craft was accomplished by Alcock and Brown (Newfoundland to Ireland) in 1919, winning a
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Re: Believe it or Not!

Postby H » Fri May 25, 2007 6:01 pm

Robert "Believe it or Not!" Ripley must have been was an American.
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Re: Believe it or Not!

Postby WebbPA » Fri May 25, 2007 7:11 pm

Robert "Believe it or Not!" Ripley must have been an American. Alcock & Brown were famous throughout the world except perhaps in the USA. It takes nothing away from Lindbergh's achievement.

Surely you know by now that Americans see nothing that happens outside of America.  If Alcock and Brown had landed in the US instead of Newfoundland Americans would have been yawning over Lindbergh.  Maybe.  But Lindbergh was American and Alcock & Brown were English.

If you need further proof ask the average American which name sounds more familiar - Yuri Gagarin, Alan Shepard or John Glenn.

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Re: Believe it or Not!

Postby Hagar » Sat May 26, 2007 2:56 am

Robert "Believe it or Not!" Ripley must have been an American. Alcock & Brown were famous throughout the world except perhaps in the USA. It takes nothing away from Lindbergh's achievement.

Surely you know by now that Americans see nothing that happens outside of America.
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Re: Believe it or Not!

Postby expat » Sat May 26, 2007 4:50 am


To be fair I'd never heard the name Charles Lindbergh until I saw the film "The Spirit of St. Louis" in the late 1950s. I imagine everyone with the slightest interest in aviation must have seen that film at least once.



Bugger, I thought James Stewart did it first ;D

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Re: Believe it or Not!

Postby H » Sat May 26, 2007 5:21 am

Doesn't change your point but Alcock & Brown took of from St. John's, Newfoundland. They landed in a boggy field near the small town of Clifden, Ireland.
No wonder it was no big deal: Newfoundland was part of the U.K. at the time -- they only made it across the border. Sorry, got carried away by that "The border relations between Mexico and Canada have never been better," quote by Bush. ::) :)


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Re: Believe it or Not!

Postby expat » Sat May 26, 2007 12:12 pm

Doesn't change your point but Alcock & Brown took of from St. John's, Newfoundland. They landed in a boggy field near the small town of Clifden, Ireland.
No wonder it was no big deal: Newfoundland was part of the U.K. at the time -- they only made it across the border. Sorry, got carried away by that "The border relations between Mexico and Canada have never been better," quote by Bush. ::) :)


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Re: Believe it or Not!

Postby Arnimon » Sat May 26, 2007 3:51 pm


Ask a German and they will say the first person to fly was Otto Linenthal.

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Hey Matt,as a german Citizen you should know now that the Name of this Aircraft Pioneer was Otto Lilienthal.  ::)  ;)
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Re: Believe it or Not!

Postby expat » Sat May 26, 2007 9:34 pm


Ask a German and they will say the first person to fly was Otto Linenthal.

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Hey Matt,as a german Citizen you should know now that the Name of this Aircraft Pioneer was Otto Lilienthal.  ::)  ;)


Ah, but Arni, I said that if you asked a German. I am English, but as we used to say in a previous life, it was close enough for government work  :D :D

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Re: Believe it or Not!

Postby ATI_7500 » Mon May 28, 2007 10:05 am

(Actually, it was Gustav Weisskopf (Whitehead)). ;D
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Re: Believe it or Not!

Postby expat » Mon May 28, 2007 12:42 pm

You will be telling us Frank Whittle did not invent the jet engine next ;D

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