It's good to talk...

[Hagar]

[quote]But to be honest, I don't understand why we are having to debate the differences between jingoism and patriotism.

[ozzy72]

As the wise man once said "All things in moderation" of course they didn't have chocolate in those days so that is exempt

[H]

As the wise man once said, "All things in moderation;" of course they didn't have chocolate in those days so that is exempt

But they did have alcoholic beverages (in reference to which it is so often quoted). In those days, cocoa was actually in use in South America but not in making the modern chocolate concoctions so many are fond of.

A few hundred posts ago in this thread:

Hagar said: Some people feel that [mandatory conscription] should be re-introduced to give young people a sense of discipline, respect & loyalty, thus solving the social problems we're faced with at a stroke.

I've had an example amongst my own relatives to prove how well this doesn't always work. When given a bit of training, it can take a half dozen battered policemen to take in the teenage sot (under age but signed into the Marines by a parent who thought it might realign his character) that could probably been successfully taken in with no more than two.

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[Brett_Henderson]

Ok.. now we're getting incoherent.

That makes about as much sense as not requiring all youngsters to attend school because it might make some act resentfully and avail their education, criminally.