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Postby ozzy72 » Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:02 am

Hard to believe that 6 years ago today the Air France Concorde crashed killing everyone on board. The beginning of the end for supersonic passenger planes at this time :(
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Re: AF4590

Postby Sir_Crashalot » Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:40 am

6 years already? Wow, time goes fast.

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Re: AF4590

Postby expat » Tue Jul 25, 2006 12:22 pm

And that just because of a stupid piece of metal lying on the runway >:(.


Or a French maintenance error and an overloaded aircraft that took off with the wind and a flight engineer that shut down an engine without the pilots knowledge below the safe handling speed for two engines, depending on the story you believe of course

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Re: AF4590

Postby dcunning30 » Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:24 pm

Or a French maintenance error and an overloaded aircraft that took off with the wind and a flight engineer that shut down an engine without the pilots knowledge below the safe handling speed for two engines



Whoa!  Is that a conspiracy theory or what was determined to be the fault?   :o
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Re: AF4590

Postby Mictheslik » Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:26 pm

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Re: AF4590

Postby expat » Wed Jul 26, 2006 12:01 am



Whoa!  Is that a conspiracy theory or what was determined to be the fault?   :o



They are documented facts. Make of them what you will;

It was agreed between France and the UK that if any Concord crashed it would be a joint investigation, to a certain extent the French did honour this. The British crash investigating team inspected the undercarriage (they had been serviced during the night) and found that a vital spacer was missing from the "suspect" gear. It was found on the component servicing shelve in the French Concord hanger. Without this spacer, the gear would act like a shopping trolley wheel and at that speed shake its self to death.
Air traffic transcripts prove that the pilot elected to take off with a tail wind.
Baggage handling paperwork shows that Concord had approximately 1 ton of extra baggage onboard from an Air France flight that was delayed and the passengers put on another aircraft. Their baggage was to catch them up via concord.
Also refuelling paperwork shows that Concord had approximately 1 ton of extra fuel that was expected to be used during the taxi out and the first few seconds of the take off role, but the pilot, as shown by air traffic tapes elected to take off with the wind.
Cockpit voice recording shows that the flight engineer did shut down an engine without the say so of the captain and below the safe operating speed for three engines.
These are documented facts. Conspiracy theory, that is for the individual to decide, but Air France was about to be privatised and wanted investors..................
I mealy present, food for thought.


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