WWII Battleship Comparisons

[Woodlouse2002]

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Reasonable question.

[SilverFox441]

I think he probably discounted Rodney and Nelson due to the limited arc of fire that class suffered in one turret.

In a true broadside battle it wouldn't matter...but if manuever is a factor (ain't it always?)...well that limitation could doom those ships by reducing their apparent rate of fire.

I always liked the look of those ships though...strange as they were.

[Woodlouse2002]

It is a pity that the Washinton Treaty came into effect as it did as I believe they would have been fantastic battleships if built as originally intended.

I don't see the restrictions to one of the turrets as an issue in his calculations as broadside metal is taken into account yet manueverbility is not.

[dcunning30]

I don't know much about the Nelson class BB, but the Japanese did a similar thing with their Mogami class heavy cruisers. (3 turrets forward )  What occurred with the Mogami class is firing a simultanious broadside had the unpleasant effect of popping welds.  It could just be due to Japanese construction technique, I don't know. It was just a thought.

[Woodlouse2002]

[quote]I don't know much about the Nelson class BB, but the Japanese did a similar thing with their Mogami class heavy cruisers. (3 turrets forward )

[dcunning30]

Yea, that makes sense.  It's a cool looking ship, BTW.

Here's another cool-looking ship.  It was a practical failure, but I like it anyway.

IJN Ryujo

[dcunning30]

Notice the white line i added to the hull.  The Ryujo had seaworthieness problems.  So the Japanese added a higher freeboard that is depicted in the last picture.  It used to be where the white line I added shows.  If you follow the line aft, you'll see where the railing begins, and you can imagine what her lines used to look like.  Ryujo was a mixed success and ended up being sunk in August 1942.

[Felix/FFDS]

Actually the Ryujo was built based on the recovered remains of the Titanic .....

[dcunning30]

IJN Nibai

[dcunning30]

Talk about martime failures.  I submit to you the Russian Novgogod.  She was designed to be round so that she could turn really well.  And that she did.  However, she couldn't sail in a straight line at all.  She was a colossal failure.

[Woodlouse2002]

I am quite well aquainted with the Novrogod and Admiral Popov. They were the topic of my most successful "guess the battleship". It should be noted that while used as actual ships they were about as much use as a chocolate thermometer, as coastal defence forts they served brilliantly. It should also be noted that the round shape was not to increase maueverbility but to provide as stable a firing platform as possible for the two centrally mounted guns.

http://www.battleships-cruisers.co.uk/

If, you like battleships, you'd have a hard time bettering the above site...

[Felix/FFDS]

Those Russian battle(?)ships were really the upper section of the german submarine posing as an iceberg.....

[dcunning30]

Those Russian battle(?)ships were really the upper section of the german submarine posing as an iceberg.....

Best post ever!

[4_Series_Scania]

Best post ever!

And one of the better reply's  ;)  ;D

[myshelf]

got a question here

what ship had the largest crew ever?