Did they land on the Moon?

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Re: Did they land on the Moon?

Postby C » Wed Dec 21, 2005 4:58 pm

Well, if Neil Armstrong didn't do it, Wallace and Gromit did, and personally I'd be happy to find the moon was made of cheese.

I think it probably did... :)
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Re: Did they land on the Moon?

Postby Apex » Wed Dec 21, 2005 7:06 pm

Yes, we Americans landed on the moon.
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Re: Did they land on the Moon?

Postby Hagar » Wed Dec 21, 2005 7:26 pm

[quote]Yes, we Americans landed on the moon.
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Re: Did they land on the Moon?

Postby RichieB16 » Wed Dec 21, 2005 7:35 pm

I would imagine that Hagar is probably right, there probably was a backup plan to fake the landings if it did become neccessary.  Because, there is always a backup plan.

What I would expect it is never went any farther than being known only by a select few if it was infact a backup plan.

At the time of the landings in 1969 (or "suspected" landings  ;)), we had pretty much known that the Soviets were way behind in the race to put a man on the moon (they had yet to have a successiful test launch on the only rocket they had large enough for the task-and in the end they never did).  So, even if Apollo 11 had failed, it was very unlikely they were going to beat us-we could have taken our time.  But, Kennedy has promised the moon by the end of the decade and that was also an important goal.

I don't think for a second that the landings were faked, I believe that all 6 were real.  I am willing to believe that there was probably some kind of contingency plan to fake it if it was absolutely neccessary though.
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Re: Did they land on the Moon?

Postby Hagar » Wed Dec 21, 2005 7:52 pm

Thanks Richie. Despite what some people seem to think I was never anti-American, nor do I have communist sympathies. If I was a communist I would come right out & say so as I've always been honest (some say too honest) & have nothing to hide. I've been accused of many things in my time but this one's a first. ::)

I seem to recall that Wernher von Braun had some doubts about actually landing a man on the Moon. His objective had always been a flip round it & return to Earth. I think he would have preferred that for the first attempt at least. I also remember you mentioning that the Russians faked their first space walk. Not the actual walk but the film of it that was released afterwards. Maybe this could explain some of the conspiracy theories about that first Moon landing. People seem to forget that was the important one & any that might have happened afterwards are irrelevant.
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Re: Did they land on the Moon?

Postby RichieB16 » Wed Dec 21, 2005 8:04 pm

There was never a video made during Alexei Leonov's Voskhod 2 spacewalk in March of 1965 (the first space walk).
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Re: Did they land on the Moon?

Postby H » Thu Dec 22, 2005 4:26 am

Do you think the americans landed on the moon? If you dont, please state why.

No, it would have sank into the cheese!

Just let me make one thing quite clear. This was as important to me as it was to you or anyone in the Western world.
And how important it was! Remember my early days (er, nights) in these posts, Hagar, when you admitted to having been the Man in the Moon ;D ? I was so concerned and relieved to learn that our lunar mission had successfully rescued you from starvation -- after you'd left the moon devoid of its cheese. ;) 8)
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Re: Did they land on the Moon?

Postby masmith » Thu Dec 22, 2005 6:48 am

Check this out-

Covers all the points a proves that the hoax is wrong
and that the americans did land on the moon.

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html
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Re: Did they land on the Moon?

Postby Hagar » Thu Dec 22, 2005 7:07 am

Check this out-

Covers all the points a proves that the hoax is wrong
and that the americans did land on the moon.

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html

I don't think that proves anything one way or the other. Fox TV does not have the best reputation for factual reporting. The only actual proof would be for someone to go there & find out.
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Re: Did they land on the Moon?

Postby RichieB16 » Thu Dec 22, 2005 1:23 pm

The only actual proof would be for someone to go there & find out.

I'll do it!  Now, only if I could find someone to send me there...
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Re: Did they land on the Moon?

Postby Woodlouse2002 » Thu Dec 22, 2005 1:44 pm

After reading though some of the link supplied by masmith I find myself wanting the moon landing to be a hoax simply to proove the nit who wrote it wrong.

So to me it's obious that it was faked at Area 51 with Lee Harvey Oswald as it's director, writer, actors and rocket. :)
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Re: Did they land on the Moon?

Postby RichieB16 » Thu Dec 22, 2005 1:59 pm

So to me it's obious that it was faked at Area 51 with Lee Harvey Oswald as it's director, writer, actors and rocket. :)

Of all the moon hoax theories I have ever read, I think this one is the most valid.  Woody, you have swayed me.   ;) ;D
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Re: Did they land on the Moon?

Postby dcunning30 » Thu Dec 22, 2005 2:56 pm

In order to assign any level of plausability to a notion that the moon landings were fake, consider the very large number of conspirators to such a fake landing would have to be.  Also consider that large number of  conspirators would have to remain silent for all of over 30 years, with not 1 participant even uttering a peep.  No death-bed concience clearing, not second thoughts by the guilty minded, no "brave souls" going on the talk circuit promoting their tell-all books, there's none of any of this that we see all the time in this day and age.  It's tremendously inpalusable.

We have news reporters, who by nature would be very keen to win that pulitzer by exposing a faked moon landing.

We have technicians, astronauts, their family, support personnel, mainanence workers, controllers, personnel who orchastrated and constructed the props for the fakery, etc.  The number of conspirators to such an event that had such a world wide audience would number in the hundereds if not thousands.  Is this possible?  yes  Is this plausable?  Nope.
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Re: Did they land on the Moon?

Postby Hagar » Thu Dec 22, 2005 3:22 pm

[quote]In order to assign any level of plausability to a notion that the moon landings were fake, consider the very large number of conspirators to such a fake landing would have to be.
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Re: Did they land on the Moon?

Postby Woodlouse2002 » Thu Dec 22, 2005 3:35 pm

[quote]In order to assign any level of plausability to a notion that the moon landings were fake, consider the very large number of conspirators to such a fake landing would have to be.
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