1918 Red Baron killed in action

Discussions on History. Please keep on topic & friendly. Provocative & one sided political posts will be deleted.

1918 Red Baron killed in action

Postby Felix/FFDS » Thu Apr 21, 2005 8:51 am

1918 Red Baron killed in action


In the skies over Vauz sur Somme, France, Manfred von Richthofen, the notorious German flying ace known as "The Red Baron," is killed by Allied fire.


Note that this article in the History Channel's site does not attribute the "Allied fire" to one or another specific source  (ie. Roy Brown or Australian gunners) ..
Felix/FFDS
User avatar
Felix/FFDS
Administrator
Administrator
 
Posts: 16776435
Joined: Wed Jan 31, 2001 9:42 am
Location: Orlando, FL

Re: 1918 Red Baron killed in action

Postby Yurei » Thu Apr 21, 2005 9:13 am

he took down 80 allied aircraft in the war (holding the record for the first ww). he was my hero when i was a kid. i had my little red baron toy plane and loved it more than any other ;D

edit to add: of course he wasn't my hero for killing all those people (i was a kid, i didn't even understand the concept of death and war). i guess i just really liked that plane ;)
Last edited by Yurei on Thu Apr 21, 2005 9:17 am, edited 1 time in total.
Image
User avatar
Yurei
Captain
Captain
 
Posts: 684
Joined: Sun Feb 20, 2005 8:13 am
Location: hopefully far away soon

Re: 1918 Red Baron killed in action

Postby eno » Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:00 am

Didn't we have this debate this time last year Image
;D ;D ;D
[align=center][img]http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/imaginsigeno.jpg[/img][/align]
User avatar
eno
Lieutenant Colonel
Lieutenant Colonel
 
Posts: 6708
Joined: Sun Jan 18, 2004 12:30 pm
Location: Derbyshire UK

Re: 1918 Red Baron killed in action

Postby Hagar » Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:06 am

Didn't we have this debate this time last year Image
;D ;D ;D

Not on the anniversary of his death. ;)

[quote]i had my little red baron toy plane and loved it more than any other
Last edited by Hagar on Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:07 am, edited 1 time in total.
Image

Founder & Sole Member - Grumpy's Over the Hill Club for Veteran Virtual Aviators
Member of the Fox Four Group
My Google Photos albums
My Flickr albums
User avatar
Hagar
Colonel
Colonel
 
Posts: 30862
Joined: Wed Jun 19, 2002 7:15 am
Location: Costa Geriatrica

Re: 1918 Red Baron killed in action

Postby TacitBlue » Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:42 am

I really like his pizza.
Image
A&P Mechanic, Rankin Aircraft 78Y

Aircraft are naturally beautiful because form follows function. -TB
User avatar
TacitBlue
Major
Major
 
Posts: 3856
Joined: Mon Nov 08, 2004 12:33 pm
Location: Saint Joseph, Missouri, USA

Re: 1918 Red Baron killed in action

Postby ATI_7500 » Thu Apr 21, 2005 12:52 pm

A great man from the era when dogfights still had a knightly touch. :)
Sadly, this era ended around 1941...
ATI_7500
 

Re: 1918 Red Baron killed in action

Postby Hagar » Thu Apr 21, 2005 2:17 pm

A great man from the era when dogfights still had a knightly touch. :)
Sadly, this era ended around 1941...

I always understood the Red Baron was a cool calculated killer. Only way to survive & he was an experienced huntsman like most of the nobility. A good fighter pilot will shoot you in the back without you knowing he's there. That's his job. A large percentage of his victims were either inferior two-seat reconnaissance types or rookies. From what I've read over the years, chivalry in the air in WWI is mostly myth. This might have been so in the early days before aircraft carried armament.
Image

Founder & Sole Member - Grumpy's Over the Hill Club for Veteran Virtual Aviators
Member of the Fox Four Group
My Google Photos albums
My Flickr albums
User avatar
Hagar
Colonel
Colonel
 
Posts: 30862
Joined: Wed Jun 19, 2002 7:15 am
Location: Costa Geriatrica

Re: 1918 Red Baron killed in action

Postby Felix/FFDS » Thu Apr 21, 2005 2:19 pm

I agree with Hagar.
Felix/FFDS
User avatar
Felix/FFDS
Administrator
Administrator
 
Posts: 16776435
Joined: Wed Jan 31, 2001 9:42 am
Location: Orlando, FL

Re: 1918 Red Baron killed in action

Postby Flt.Lt.Andrew » Thu Apr 21, 2005 9:28 pm

I think the gentlemanly aspect only exists in Historians' minds...I've heard of 12 on 1 kind of thing...tell me how thats chivalrous?
Same went for on the ground as well...

A.
Last edited by Flt.Lt.Andrew on Thu Apr 21, 2005 9:29 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Flt.Lt.Andrew
 

Re: 1918 Red Baron killed in action

Postby RichieB16 » Thu Apr 21, 2005 9:39 pm

\The legend of the Red Baron in his all-red Fokker Triplane owes more to a cartoon strip & a pop record than the truth.

Although it has been blown out of proportion-I think part of it is due to the fact that he was shot down while flying a basically all red Triplane.
Last edited by RichieB16 on Thu Apr 21, 2005 9:43 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
RichieB16
Major
Major
 
Posts: 3662
Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2002 11:46 pm
Location: Oregon

Re: 1918 Red Baron killed in action

Postby Yurei » Fri Apr 22, 2005 6:44 am

The legend of the Red Baron in his all-red Fokker Triplane owes more to a cartoon strip & a pop record than the truth.  

lol there's a pop record?
Image
User avatar
Yurei
Captain
Captain
 
Posts: 684
Joined: Sun Feb 20, 2005 8:13 am
Location: hopefully far away soon

Re: 1918 Red Baron killed in action

Postby Hagar » Fri Apr 22, 2005 6:54 am

lol there's a pop record?

Actually there was more than one. Probably before your time. ;)

Image
Snoopy vs. The Red Baron
1966
The Royal Guardsmen

After the turn of the century
In the clear blue skies over Germany
Came a roar and a thunder men had never heard
Like the scream and the sound of a big war bird

Up in the sky, a man in a plane
Baron von Richthofen was his name
Eighty men tried, and eighty men died
Now they're buried together on the countryside

Chorus: Ten, twenty, thirty, forty, fifty or more
The Bloody Red Baron was rollin' out the score
Eighty men died tryin' to end that spree
Of the Bloody Red Baron of Germany

In the nick of time, a hero arose
A funny-looking dog with a big black nose
He flew into the sky to seek revenge
But the Baron shot him down--"Curses, foiled again!"

Chorus

Now, Snoopy had sworn that he'd get that man
So he asked the Great Pumpkin for a new battle plan
He challenged the German to a real dogfight
While the Baron was laughing, he got him in his sight

That Bloody Red Baron was in a fix
He'd tried everything, but he'd run out of tricks
Snoopy fired once, and he fired twice
And that Bloody Red Baron went spinning out of sight

Chorus

Fade on chorus second time

http://www.petcaretips.net/snoopy_song.html
Last edited by Hagar on Fri Apr 22, 2005 6:57 am, edited 1 time in total.
Image

Founder & Sole Member - Grumpy's Over the Hill Club for Veteran Virtual Aviators
Member of the Fox Four Group
My Google Photos albums
My Flickr albums
User avatar
Hagar
Colonel
Colonel
 
Posts: 30862
Joined: Wed Jun 19, 2002 7:15 am
Location: Costa Geriatrica

Re: 1918 Red Baron killed in action

Postby Yurei » Fri Apr 22, 2005 9:42 am

excellent! very interesting, thanks doug ;D
Image
User avatar
Yurei
Captain
Captain
 
Posts: 684
Joined: Sun Feb 20, 2005 8:13 am
Location: hopefully far away soon

Re: 1918 Red Baron killed in action

Postby RichieB16 » Fri Apr 22, 2005 10:23 am

Actually there was more than one. Probably before your time. ;)
Image

I know that song!!!   ;D
User avatar
RichieB16
Major
Major
 
Posts: 3662
Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2002 11:46 pm
Location: Oregon

Re: 1918 Red Baron killed in action

Postby Felix/FFDS » Fri Apr 22, 2005 10:44 am

[quote] or the one for which William Barker won the Victory Cross (which I think is one of the most amazing stories of WWI).
Felix/FFDS
User avatar
Felix/FFDS
Administrator
Administrator
 
Posts: 16776435
Joined: Wed Jan 31, 2001 9:42 am
Location: Orlando, FL

Next

Return to History

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 198 guests