43 Years Ago Today

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43 Years Ago Today

Postby RichieB16 » Sun Feb 20, 2005 9:21 pm

On February 20, 1962, American astronaut John Glenn flew is small Mercury spacecapsule "Friendship 7" around the Earth 3 times becoming the first American to orbit the Earth.  

According the the international rules at the time, this was actually the first "REAL" spaceflight.  The two previous American missions had not reached the required altitude according to international standards.  The two previous Soviet missions (both orbitals) did reach the altitude barrier but the cosmonaut did not land inside his capsule (which was one of the rules-this was of course covered up).   So, according to the rules at the time, Glenn's mission was the first to meet all the requirements of a space flight.  Of course, the previous 4 missions are today (and even were then) considered space flights in the eyes of most.
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Re: 43 Years Ago Today

Postby Smoke2much » Mon Feb 21, 2005 3:47 am

Just out of interest, who wrote the rules?
Who switched the lights off?
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Re: 43 Years Ago Today

Postby C » Mon Feb 21, 2005 8:57 am

Probably the same people that wrote the rules for the next "X Prize", the $50million award to the first person to complete 2 orbits in a civilian manned spacecraft. As we all know, one of the leaders in this field is a chap and his company from the north of the UK, and before SpaceShip One he was tipped as a possible winner of the original X-Prize. I find it strange however, that the small print for this one states (in words to the effect of...) "the entrant must be American and the Spacecraft must be developed in the USA", which rather limits the incentive for any non-American to try...

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Re: 43 Years Ago Today

Postby ATI_7500 » Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:19 am

Whatever the rules are, for me Gagarin was and will always be the first man in space.
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Re: 43 Years Ago Today

Postby C » Mon Feb 21, 2005 11:22 am

Whatever the rules are, for me Gagarin was and will always be the first man in space.


Indeed, well done to the USSR. Its a shame people don't remember things like that :).

According to my video collection it was Peter Sellers in the film "Heaven's Above" ;)
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Re: 43 Years Ago Today

Postby RichieB16 » Mon Feb 21, 2005 11:28 am

Whatever the rules are, for me Gagarin was and will always be the first man in space.

And he really always has been considered that.
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Re: 43 Years Ago Today

Postby C » Mon Feb 21, 2005 11:36 am

I think these "rules" were developed by a third party (I think it was some group in Europe) to make sure that there was a standard for spaceflight


I imagine they stemmed from Paris, as many international federations (sport/technological) have historically been based there... :)
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Re: 43 Years Ago Today

Postby Felix/FFDS » Mon Feb 21, 2005 12:21 pm

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Re: 43 Years Ago Today

Postby C » Mon Feb 21, 2005 12:55 pm

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Re: 43 Years Ago Today

Postby RichieB16 » Mon Feb 21, 2005 6:38 pm

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Re: 43 Years Ago Today

Postby concordski » Wed Mar 16, 2005 12:31 pm

The americans achieved nothing in the space race, they were always behind the russians, and they DIDN'T get to the moon.
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Re: 43 Years Ago Today

Postby Felix/FFDS » Wed Mar 16, 2005 1:00 pm

The americans achieved nothing in the space race, they were always behind the russians, and they DIDN'T get to the moon.


and the world is flat, the universe rotates around the Earth.  There is no space, and no one has ever been to space.  All cosmo/astronauts that have died have been the result of a global conspiracy to squelch any dissemination of this - one (or more) of the cosmo/astronauts in the incidents were going to "spill the beans" so they (and the unfortunate others in the mission) suffered "accidents" .


and you're all a figment of my imagination and I am the only sentient being in existence - all happens, or not, because of my will and imagination.
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Re: 43 Years Ago Today

Postby ATI_7500 » Wed Mar 16, 2005 1:36 pm

The Matrix...exists!  :o
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Re: 43 Years Ago Today

Postby RichieB16 » Wed Mar 16, 2005 8:13 pm

The americans achieved nothing in the space race, they were always behind the russians, and they DIDN'T get to the moon.

As a matter of fact, the United States took the lead in the space race in 1965 with the flight of Gemini-V.
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Re: 43 Years Ago Today

Postby Hagar » Thu Mar 17, 2005 6:35 am

I don't wish to prolong this argument but I've never doubted that the so-called Space Race was mainly politically motivated & regarded as a matter of national security by both govenments. It was not presented as such to Joe Public to avoid questioning the vast amount of public money involved. Much like flying, romantic notions of space travel have appealed to people for centuries. Comics were full of science fiction heroes like Dan Dare when I was young & we could see the exploits of space adventurers like Flash Gordon every week at the Saturday morning flicks. This was the environment in the early 60s when the possibility of it becoming reality & a man actually walking on the Moon in the very near future caused a great deal of enthusiasm & excitement among ordinary people. Not only did they say they could do it but this would be during our lifetime & we would be able to see them doing it.* What a thing to be able to tell our grandchildren. "I can remember when the first man walked on the Moon & we watched it all on TV." It's no coincidence that the first NASA Space Shuttle was officially named Enterprise.

It seems a pity to me that all that expense & effort could not have been a joint project. However, if both sides had not considered it vitally important to keep abreast of the other I doubt the funding would have been available to achieve it.

I know you're very interested in space travel Richie & have no wish to contradict you. You know far more about the technical aspects than I ever will.
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