Corsair VS. BF-109?

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Corsair VS. BF-109?

Postby Wing Nut » Fri Aug 13, 2004 3:39 am

We were talking about Warhawks Vs. a 109 earlier, but I read through that again and was wondering about different intertheater matchups.  Did a Corsair ever fight a 109?  How about a Spitfire and a Zero?  A Bearcat Vs. a 190?  I'd love to know about these kinds of dogfights and how they turned out...
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Re: Corsair VS. BF-109?

Postby HawkerTempest5 » Fri Aug 13, 2004 7:03 am

The Corsair certainly served at some point in the ETO with the FAA. Corsairs escorted a bombing raid on the Terpitz but I have no idea about what opposition they met. Spits and Zeros certainly clashed. I think I'm correct in saying that the last aircraft shot down in WW2 were a couple of Zeros destroyed by Seafire L MkIIIcs on the very last day of the war.
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Re: Corsair VS. BF-109?

Postby Woodlouse2002 » Fri Aug 13, 2004 11:49 am

The FAA raid against the Tirpitz came against absolutely no resistance from the air. In other words they were un-opposed.

The last japanise aircraft destroyed in WWII was an Oscar downed by a P61 on the final day of the war.
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Re: Corsair VS. BF-109?

Postby denishc » Fri Aug 13, 2004 8:36 pm

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Re: Corsair VS. BF-109?

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Re: Corsair VS. BF-109?

Postby denishc » Mon Aug 16, 2004 12:55 pm

 Another tale of East meets West.......

 P-51s vs. La-7s:  This tale involves the Allies top scoring ace, Ivan Kozhedub, noless.  In April 1945 Kozhedub came to the aid of an American B-17 that was being attacked by two German fighters.  Kozhedub managed to chase away the Germans but then he came under attack by a formation of "unfamiliar" fighters.  Kozhedub engaged the on coming aircraft and shot down two of them before he noticed "the blue and white stars on the wings and fuselage of his 'enemy'.  Kozhedub returned to base extremely upset, certain that his actions would result in a major row with the allies.  Fortunately, one of the American pilots managed to bale out, (he was recovered by Russian ground forces), and when he was asked who shot him down, he replied 'a Focke-Wulf with a red nose'."  Kozhedub's commanding officer "gave Kozhedub the gun camera film confirming his two Mustang kills, along with the admonition, 'Keep this to yourself-show no one'."
 Kozhedub was never credited for downing the two Mustangs.    
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Re: Corsair VS. BF-109?

Postby Felix/FFDS » Tue Aug 17, 2004 8:45 am

In Erich Hartmann's biography, he states that towards the last days of the war, he evaded combat by attacking some US planes, as he was being jumped by Russians ... pretty soon the Russians and US were fighting each other and Hartmann got away.
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Re: Corsair VS. BF-109?

Postby ATI_7500 » Tue Aug 17, 2004 9:47 am

Clever... :)
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Re: Corsair VS. BF-109?

Postby denishc » Tue Aug 17, 2004 3:42 pm

In Erich Hartmann's biography, he states that towards the last days of the war, he evaded combat by attacking some US planes, as he was being jumped by Russians ... pretty soon the Russians and US were fighting each other and Hartmann got away.


 Does anyone know the make of the aircraft involved in this incident?
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Re: Corsair VS. BF-109?

Postby ATI_7500 » Wed Aug 18, 2004 5:59 am

Hartmann probably flew a Bf 109K-4 or G-10.
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Re: Corsair VS. BF-109?

Postby denishc » Wed Aug 18, 2004 9:14 pm

 And now for something completely different........

 B-17 Flying Fortress vs. H6K "Mavis" flying boat:  What can only be described as the most unusual dogfight of World War 2 occured in the skies over the South Pacific.  On October 23, 1942 an Army Air Corps B-17, on patrol from Espirito Santo, "came to the aid of a PBY that was being attacked by a H6K 'Mavis' flying boat of the Imperial Japanese Navy."  The B-17 dove on the H6K, but soon both aircraft entered a rain squall.  Emerging from the squall at low altitude the two aircraft found themselves flying a beam of each other only fifty feet apart.  "Immediately every gun on both aircraft began firing in a broadside exchange reminiscent of the age old sailing ship battles.  Thousands of bullets criss-crossed the narrow spread of air" between the two large aircraft.  Twisting and turning, in and out of rain squalls, the two aircraft flailed away at each other for 45 minutes.  The "Mavis" kept very close to the wave tops to protect its vulnerable under belly while the B-17 made tight turns to stay inside the H6K and avoid being hit by the tail gun of the Japanese flying boat.  "Finally, the 'Mavis' began smoking, and dropped into the sea, exploding in a large ball of flame."  The B-17 came away from the battle with holes in its fuselage and wings, a damaged engine and two injured crew members.        
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Re: Corsair VS. BF-109?

Postby ATI_7500 » Thu Aug 19, 2004 4:22 am

Immediately every gun on both aircraft began firing in a broadside exchange reminiscent of the age old sailing ship battles.


OMG just imagine seeing that... :o
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Re: Corsair VS. BF-109?

Postby Hagar » Thu Aug 19, 2004 4:47 am

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Re: Corsair VS. BF-109?

Postby denishc » Thu Aug 19, 2004 9:02 pm


 At the Chailey air show I attended a week ago they renacted an encounter between an L-4 Grasshopper (Piper Cub) & a Fieseler Storch. The L-4 crew had spotted the Storch & decided to attack it....


 Talk about a battle of the fly weights!!
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Postby Scorpiоn » Thu Aug 19, 2004 9:24 pm

Movies waiting to be made, I tell you! ;D
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