Mid-Air Collision

[ozzy72]

Not far from Hagar's stamping ground
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/planes-collide ... 20156.html

[expat]

When will the press realise that when an aircraft has no tail, the pilot has become a passenger and gravity has taken over the aircraft and said aircraft will make a direct hit on the bit of ground beneath it. Luck and nothing more that it came down where it did. Still if it makes people feel better to think that way................

Matt

[Hagar]

When will the press realise that when an aircraft has no tail, the pilot has become a passenger and gravity has taken over the aircraft and said aircraft will make a direct hit on the bit of ground beneath it. Luck and nothing more that it came down where it did. Still if it makes people feel better to think that way................

Matt

You know that & I know that but it might be better if Joe Public Fred Bloggs believes the press reports. Enough people will be calling for the closure of the airport as it is.

[ozzy72]

I want to know when they'll call for the execution of incompetent air traffic controllers... especially the French and Spanish ones during the summer holidays

[beaky]

If I may be a little contrary...
Assuming it was just the vertical stab that came off, there is some-but not much-directional control available; maybe this poor bastard really did pick where he would put it (more or less). But it would take lots of experience and a very cool head-  especially knowing it would not do you any good personally.  :-/


As for the controllers- sorry, but if conditions are VMC, they can't be held accountable for much, IMHO. If you need them to maintain separation anywhere, when in VMC, you have no business flying. Closest I've ever come to swapping paint with another plane was in the pattern at a tower-controlled airport. I was not pleased with the controller's performance (all three times!) but in the end it was my fault and the other pilots'.
I have learned from this: avoid controlled airspaces!. 

[Hagar]

[quote]If I may be a little contrary...
Assuming it was just the vertical stab that came off, there is some-but not much-directional control available; maybe this poor bastard really did pick where he would put it (more or less). But it would take lots of experience and a very cool head-

[ozzy72]

Journalists only report what others do, they never do anything themselves...
It is a tragedy that a good man should die like this, but as usual the media will do anything to sell copy...

[expat]

Journalists only report what others do, they never do anything themselves...
It is a tragedy that a good man should die like this, but as usual the media will do anything to sell copy...

It just goes to show what rubbish is reported. I read in an national newspaper yesterday that the DA40 had it's engine ripped off in the impact and landed "Safely". Apart from the HUGE C of G problem that would produce, look at the picture in Doug's link, the impact damage is on the leading edge

Matt

[patchz]

Journalists only report what others do, they never do anything themselves...
It is a tragedy that a good man should die like this, but as usual the media will do anything to sell copy...

I beg to differ Mark. Some of them are very adept at writing fiction.

[Hagar]

It just goes to show what rubbish is reported. I read in an national newspaper yesterday that the DA40 had it's engine ripped off in the impact and landed "Safely". Apart from the HUGE C of G problem that would produce, look at the picture in Doug's link, the impact damage is on the leading edge

Matt

That report was basically correct. If you look at the photo carefully you will see the prop is missing. The propeller that ended up on the beach was from the DA40, not the RV-6 as everyone seems to assume. They did well to get back safely to the airfield. IMHO

[expat]

Journalists only report what others do, they never do anything themselves...
It is a tragedy that a good man should die like this, but as usual the media will do anything to sell copy...

I beg to differ Mark. Some of them are very adept at writing fiction.

Slightly unrelated but at least no more "stories" from the News of the Screws Murdoch Folds News of the World

Matt

[expat]

It just goes to show what rubbish is reported. I read in an national newspaper yesterday that the DA40 had it's engine ripped off in the impact and landed "Safely". Apart from the HUGE C of G problem that would produce, look at the picture in Doug's link, the impact damage is on the leading edge

Matt

That report was basically correct. If you look at the photo carefully you will see the prop is missing. The propeller that ended up on the beach was from the DA40, not the RV-6 as everyone seems to assume. They did well to get back safely to the airfield. IMHO

Point taken, but if the engine as reported was missing then the outcome would have been somewhat different.

Matt

[beaky]

It just goes to show what rubbish is reported. I read in an national newspaper yesterday that the DA40 had it's engine ripped off in the impact and landed "Safely". Apart from the HUGE C of G problem that would produce, look at the picture in Doug's link, the impact damage is on the leading edge

Matt

That report was basically correct. If you look at the photo carefully you will see the prop is missing. The propeller that ended up on the beach was from the DA40, not the RV-6 as everyone seems to assume. They did well to get back safely to the airfield. IMHO

Not quite the whole engine, but still...!! That's a significant amount of weight there, not to mention the sudden lack of thrust.

I guess they are lucky it failed where it did, and the entire engine didn't come off the mounts.

[Club508]

[quote]Closest I've ever come to swapping paint with another plane was in the pattern at a tower-controlled airport. I was not pleased with the controller's performance (all three times!) but in the end it was my fault and the other pilots'.
I have learned from this: avoid controlled airspaces!.

[Club508]

Also feel sorry for that poor pilot and his family, they sure sound like nice people .