DUI Question

[Steve M]

Get a good lawyer. Bargain. Sometimes you can plead guilty or no contest, and end up with no record.

I love US justice. A positive breath test in Europe is as good as convicted, the court is a formality that confirms your ban and fine

Matt

The same applies to parts of Canada. It is really a good system for ONE time offenders. The blood alchohol levels for conviction have gotten lowered to the point of ridiculous. My girl had an afternoon birthday get together with friends where she had two glasses of wine in two hours. driving home she ran across a RIDE* checkpoint and was arrested for impaired driving. She only weighs 100 pounds. If convicted she would loose her job. I convinced her to get a lawyer, not the 200$ lawyer, but the 900$ lawyer. He pled guilty for her and bargained with the Crowns attorney. She got 40 hrs community service and no recorded charges unless she had any further altercations within the next 12 months. This was her only brush with the law in her life.
There would have really been no point in ruining her life over two glasses of wine. If she weighed in at 200 pounds she would not have blown over the limit.
The sad thing is, that repeat offenders often use this method. And that isn't the fault of the law.. it's the fault of the judges.   :)





*RIDE= Reduce Impaired Driving Everywhere. ( Police checkpoints)      

[expat]

Get a good lawyer. Bargain. Sometimes you can plead guilty or no contest, and end up with no record.

I love US justice. A positive breath test in Europe is as good as convicted, the court is a formality that confirms your ban and fine

Matt

The same applies to parts of Canada. It is really a good system for ONE time offenders. The blood alchohol levels for conviction have gotten lowered to the point of ridiculous. My girl had an afternoon birthday get together with friends where she had two glasses of wine in two hours. driving home she ran across a RIDE* checkpoint and was arrested for impaired driving. She only weighs 100 pounds. If convicted she would loose her job. I convinced her to get a lawyer, not the 200$ lawyer, but the 900$ lawyer. He pled guilty for her and bargained with the Crowns attorney. She got 40 hrs community service and no recorded charges unless she had any further altercations within the next 12 months. This was her only brush with the law in her life.
There would have really been no point in ruining her life over two glasses of wine. If she weighed in at 200 pounds she would not have blown over the limit.
The sad thing is, that repeat offenders often use this method. And that isn't the fault of the law.. it's the fault of the judges.

[Steve M]

Get a good lawyer. Bargain. Sometimes you can plead guilty or no contest, and end up with no record.

I love US justice. A positive breath test in Europe is as good as convicted, the court is a formality that confirms your ban and fine

Matt

The same applies to parts of Canada. It is really a good system for ONE time offenders. The blood alchohol levels for conviction have gotten lowered to the point of ridiculous. My girl had an afternoon birthday get together with friends where she had two glasses of wine in two hours. driving home she ran across a RIDE* checkpoint and was arrested for impaired driving. She only weighs 100 pounds. If convicted she would loose her job. I convinced her to get a lawyer, not the 200$ lawyer, but the 900$ lawyer. He pled guilty for her and bargained with the Crowns attorney. She got 40 hrs community service and no recorded charges unless she had any further altercations within the next 12 months. This was her only brush with the law in her life.
There would have really been no point in ruining her life over two glasses of wine. If she weighed in at 200 pounds she would not have blown over the limit.
The sad thing is, that repeat offenders often use this method. And that isn't the fault of the law.. it's the fault of the judges.

[Northwest 102]

[/quote]There are so many technicalities that you can get off on its ridiculous.

[olderndirt]

Believe Canada considers this a felony rather than a misdemeanor and, if it's revealed at a border crossing check, you won't be allowed into the country.

[Northwest 102]

Yeah that's what we we're talking about tonight too that having a DUI on your record excludes you from going to Canada.  However I don't know if it affects you're whole life or if after a few years they overlook it and let you in.  This part I do not know.

MIKE

[expat]

Get a good lawyer. Bargain. Sometimes you can plead guilty or no contest, and end up with no record.

I love US justice. A positive breath test in Europe is as good as convicted, the court is a formality that confirms your ban and fine

Matt

The same applies to parts of Canada. It is really a good system for ONE time offenders. The blood alchohol levels for conviction have gotten lowered to the point of ridiculous. My girl had an afternoon birthday get together with friends where she had two glasses of wine in two hours. driving home she ran across a RIDE* checkpoint and was arrested for impaired driving. She only weighs 100 pounds. If convicted she would loose her job. I convinced her to get a lawyer, not the 200$ lawyer, but the 900$ lawyer. He pled guilty for her and bargained with the Crowns attorney. She got 40 hrs community service and no recorded charges unless she had any further altercations within the next 12 months. This was her only brush with the law in her life.
There would have really been no point in ruining her life over two glasses of wine. If she weighed in at 200 pounds she would not have blown over the limit.
The sad thing is, that repeat offenders often use this method. And that isn't the fault of the law.. it's the fault of the judges.

[olderndirt]

I don't know if it affects you're whole life

Take it from one who knows, it will eventually be expunged from your driving record.

[Northwest 102]

I think it's 10 years in Minnsota then before I'm allowed in Canada.  Or a I wrong and it's only that a felony DUI arrest keeps you out of Canada?

A buddy text me yesterday and he said he was talking to his lawyer friend about my case and he said when I go for my hearing ask for the DA and that he's probably got a ton of stuff to do and will be more than happy to settle it and that .14 really isn't that bad.  Beit that Minnesota's legal limit is .08 I hope .14 isn't very bad...

MIKE

[skoker]

Go to Russia, they have a 5 DUI minimum to get into the air force!

[Northwest 102]

It would take that for me to get inside one of their planes except for maybe the Mig 29.

[olderndirt]

only a felony DUI arrest keeps you out of Canada?

Canada is the country which considers DUI a felony but when it's no longer on your US record - keep a straight face

[Northwest 102]

I think 10 years and you can get it expunged. I may look into that.  Insurance it's 3 years however I don't know about aviation insurance.  I don't really want to fly for the airlines but I would like to fly King Airs and other small turboprops in the future for charter or cargo companies.

MIKE

[beaky]

[quote]I think 10 years and you can get it expunged. I may look into that.

[Ivan]

For holland its the following:
You do the roadside test. this one has three outcomes... OK, not OK but no second test and not OK with second test.

In the 2nd case you get a fine and have to wait a few hours before driving again...

The second test is done at the police station with a more advanced test machine.
They do record the ones that let you end up at the police station, if you have too much listed or an absurd amount your driving license is temporarily revoked.

Now the juridical stuff starts if you were caught too often or the judge decides that 'the big one' was too much... And then all hell breaks loose with psychical tests and the whole lot