Invisible Russian

[Slotback]

The Russian do have a love affair with HUGE intakes on fighter aircraft....not exactly stealthy

F-22, YF-23 & F-35 have huge intakes at the front. What makes the intakes stealthy is mainly because they block view of the engines from all angles, and also because the intakes are fixed.

[C]

The Russian do have a love affair with HUGE intakes on fighter aircraft....not exactly stealthy

F-22, YF-23 & F-35 have huge intakes at the front. What makes the intakes stealthy is mainly because they block view of the engines from all angles, and also because the intakes are fixed.

Indeed, and if you want smaller intakes, then you'd be paying a performance penalty.

Simplistically, big powerful engine = big intake!

[expat]

And congress still thinks it's a good idea to quit making F-22s? I just hope Lockheed doesn't destroy the tooling..

Would not be the first time, still................."no we can't start the line up, but what we can do is start on the development of

[The Ruptured Duck]

[quote]Well, there are only so many ways to make an effective stealth fighter, so it's a given that some aspects are going to look similar among aircraft. Obviously many people are going to jump on the "Russians are copying us again" thing which has been popular to do since the start of the Cold War.
Maybe I am just more in tune with some aspects of Russian/Ukranian aircraft design, but I can see clear, original elements of Sukhoi craftsmanship in this airplane. You can really see the Su-27 series lineage here. I hope it does well.

[C]

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Russians copying US designs?

[OVERLORD_CHRIS]

And congress still thinks it's a good idea to quit making F-22s? I just hope Lockheed doesn't destroy the tooling. That looks like a cross between the YF-23 and SU-27.

Ahh You beat me to it!, that's was how I described it to my boss last night when I showed it to him at work.


If PAK FA stands for: Perspektivnyi Aviatsionnyi Kompleks Frontovoi Aviatsyi - Future Air Complex for Tactical Air Forces- Why does every one keep naming the plane PAK FA? They said it was the T-50 until Sukhoi gives it its Su designator, and yet every time I read  post about it, out side of here, they saying "The new Russian PAK FA flown today or what ever"

[ShaneG_old]

If PAK FA stands for: Perspektivnyi Aviatsionnyi Kompleks Frontovoi Aviatsyi ... Why does every one keep naming the plane PAK FA?

Because it just rolls off the tongue so easily.

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If PAK FA stands for: Perspektivnyi Aviatsionnyi Kompleks Frontovoi Aviatsyi - Future Air Complex for Tactical Air Forces- Why does every one keep naming the plane PAK FA? They said it was the T-50 until Sukhoi gives it its Su designator, and yet every time I read

[machineman9]

The Russian do have a love affair with HUGE intakes on fighter aircraft....not exactly stealthy

F-22, YF-23 & F-35 have huge intakes at the front. What makes the intakes stealthy is mainly because they block view of the engines from all angles, and also because the intakes are fixed.

Theres a video of the F22 somewhere where the intake design is shown. They couldn't show you the engine from the front simply because the intakes bent around such corners that it was impossible for them to get the camera in to show you.

The T-50 isn't very pretty, but I've come to just accept that Russian aircraft seem to 'do the job' rather than look pretty. If it works, it works. Why complicate things?

[DaveSims]

[quote][quote]Well, there are only so many ways to make an effective stealth fighter, so it's a given that some aspects are going to look similar among aircraft. Obviously many people are going to jump on the "Russians are copying us again" thing which has been popular to do since the start of the Cold War.
Maybe I am just more in tune with some aspects of Russian/Ukranian aircraft design, but I can see clear, original elements of Sukhoi craftsmanship in this airplane. You can really see the Su-27 series lineage here. I hope it does well.

[expat]

[quote][quote][quote]Well, there are only so many ways to make an effective stealth fighter, so it's a given that some aspects are going to look similar among aircraft. Obviously many people are going to jump on the "Russians are copying us again" thing which has been popular to do since the start of the Cold War.
Maybe I am just more in tune with some aspects of Russian/Ukranian aircraft design, but I can see clear, original elements of Sukhoi craftsmanship in this airplane. You can really see the Su-27 series lineage here. I hope it does well.

[machineman9]

[quote][quote]Well, there are only so many ways to make an effective stealth fighter, so it's a given that some aspects are going to look similar among aircraft. Obviously many people are going to jump on the "Russians are copying us again" thing which has been popular to do since the start of the Cold War.
Maybe I am just more in tune with some aspects of Russian/Ukranian aircraft design, but I can see clear, original elements of Sukhoi craftsmanship in this airplane. You can really see the Su-27 series lineage here. I hope it does well.