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Re: ADVISE PLS. FAA, CFI

Postby beaky » Sat Oct 03, 2009 8:26 pm

[quote]Its always a pleasure to know "'codors".

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Re: ADVISE PLS. FAA, CFI

Postby olderndirt » Sun Oct 04, 2009 6:18 pm

Why don't you phone, or drop by, the closest FAA GADO office.
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Re: ADVISE PLS. FAA, CFI

Postby Brett_Henderson » Sun Oct 04, 2009 8:13 pm

This is the sort of thing that could haunt you if you ever got into any trouble while flying for hire... even little flaws in the logbook can be used against you in an investigation.


That's what I was trying to say (without saying it). And the investigation isn't so much the FAA, it's the darn insurance companies. They'll leave no stone un-turned, if it will save them paying a claim. Having JUST enough of a certain time logged; especially if it's there's a question about the type of time it is; is more of a loose end than you'd want, flying for hire.

And CFIs know this. They're the ones who sign off on you before even taking the test... so they could get caught up in an investigation. THEY have to be confident that you're qualified, and not just by hours logged. So you'll probably have to do some flying for their peace of mind.
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Re: ADVISE PLS. FAA, CFI

Postby 757200ba » Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:46 am

"Exactly. It may be negotiable... just make sure that if you are somehow allowed to do this, there is written proof of an approval by the appropriate person (your examiner would be the most likely person). "

Thank you for all your replys, you guys help a lot.
To comment your statement (if i got it right  :D).

The thing is, i dont need for my cfi to sign (i guess), because i have my Portuguese log book and all my hours are sign and approved, and stamped by (INAC) wich is the guys that regulate all aviation in Portugal.

The only thing i need is to fit them in the US regulations, thing that you guys told me and it was confirmed that are a "bit grey" (i like this expression)

I guess the best option is to go to one of the FAA office and see if they can sort it out.
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Re: ADVISE PLS. FAA, CFI

Postby Brett_Henderson » Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:16 am

The thing is, i dont need for my cfi to sign (i guess), because i have my Portuguese log book and all my hours are sign and approved, and stamped by (INAC) wich is the guys that regulate all aviation in Portugal.


The signature you need from the CFI, is that in his opinion, you are prepared for the examination. That's the 'sign-off'.

Even if you meet all the qualifications (like hours logged).. you can't just schedule an examiner, and take the test. You have to convince the CFI that you are prepared, before scheduling the examination.
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Re: ADVISE PLS. FAA, CFI

Postby 757200ba » Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:55 am

Well i know that.

But before that i need to have all those hours logged and approved.Wich is the all problem.I still have to do lots of things in the comercial.Just to let you know i already made my day and night vfr with 100nm, and i had my first flight on the Arrow.This week i want to take out of the way, my 10 landings at night in a tower controled airport and my 300nm x country flight.So i cant start all the Arrow manouvers.Im trying first
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Re: ADVISE PLS. FAA, CFI

Postby olderndirt » Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:30 am

While your list of qualifications seems to meet all requirements, you need a CFI recommendation to take the ride.
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Re: ADVISE PLS. FAA, CFI

Postby Brett_Henderson » Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:32 am

I guess you didnt understand quite well.Or its me i cant explain to you.


I've understood the question from the first post..
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Re: ADVISE PLS. FAA, CFI

Postby 757200ba » Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:09 pm

My CFI, is with me since my prvt.He knows what i can do, but thats not the point.You are focusing on the CFI or examiner role, im not.Im way before that.

The point is, for him to sign me off, after i do all the program (part 61), are my min requirements.I still dont have THOSE 50 hours X contry.Ofcourse i can pay for a plane fly to an airport 50nm from my home airport and meet the requirements.And after that he just need check if i made them, add the hours and thats it.The thing is, not to spend all that money on doing X country,when i have this hours .SO i brought my log book, and he saw the total time.Which is good, because it can be add to total time of flight, wich is enough to meet the 250 hours that you need to take the exam.But i also need 50 h X country.The idea was to take my glider Xcountry and add to meet those requirement.But the thing is the diference of the defenition between the US x country and glider Xcountry.ok

I know he as the last word, to sign me off, for exam, and that all the hours will be checked.I dont have any problems or questions about it.BUT THATS NOT THE POINT.

The point is cosidering glider Xcountry hours to meet the 50 Xcountry hours required by the FAA for the comercial exam.

The only thing my CFI wants is to see ( and he is aware of the regs, but there are some things he cant answer)if the FAA will certify those hours and i can add them to my requirement so i dont have to pay all those X country hours, but use the ones i already have.

We are not talking about examiner or CFI competence and what they need to check.Like Rotty said i need to go to a FSDO (old GADO) and see what they can legaly do to certify those hours as Xcountry. Because even the REGS are not very clear, and there might be a way to consider those hours.

Ofcourse he will be the one saying "OK YOU ARE READY"
But is not the one who is going to pay me my hours to meet the requirements.
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Re: ADVISE PLS. FAA, CFI

Postby Brett_Henderson » Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:03 pm

OK.. I've gone back over this thread..  seems you have 23 X-coutry hours in an airplane. That means you need 27 more.

Even if you get an FAA person to allow some of your glider hours, it leaves open that loose end that Rotty and I mentioned. I can promise you that if you have an accident; the insurance company for the airplane owner is going use that informatoin to sue you.. and the lawyer for anyone injured will use it too... and you will lose that case.

My advice is to just go out and fly 27 X-country hours and settle it once and for all  :)
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Re: ADVISE PLS. FAA, CFI

Postby 757200ba » Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:50 pm

Before any thing thank you for your time, to give me your explanations and advices, thank you.

Second, im thinking going to FSDO, if they approved my hours, not even the President cant say they are not valid.

Third, "go do the 27 hour$"well ea$ier $aid, than done.

I guess if you were on my shoes, you would probably do the same.

So far the only limitation is the missing landings on my glider X country. If that's the reason i can't use them, im ok with that, even if later i say, "well i could not use them because i made 100nm straight without touching the ground on a glider (not an airplane for some), so they did not approved my x country hours". I can live with that ;)

Above al,l Brett, thank you for your time, and dedication.
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