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US AIRWAYS CRASH HAPPENING NOW

Postby skoker » Thu Jan 15, 2009 4:17 pm

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/USA1549

US Airways 1549 an A320 LGA-CLT has crashed into the Hudson. 151 onboard.  Reported all made it out safely.  AFTER TAKEOFF PLANE HIT BIRDS AND LOST BOTH ENGINES.  The reported temperature was 41*F in the water.  Reported that people were waiting on top of the plane.  The plane was in the air for 6min.  Should be ABC right now.
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Re: US AIRWAYS CRASH HAPPENING NOW

Postby C » Thu Jan 15, 2009 4:21 pm

Anyone else wanting to start a new thread on this. This is thread #4...
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Re: US AIRWAYS CRASH HAPPENING NOW

Postby Brando14100 » Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:53 pm

Anyone else wanting to start a new thread on this. This is thread #4...


I was about to start a new one until I saw all of them.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/plane_in_river

I was watching this live and I got in a big fight with my mom because I was trying to tell her about how the plane would be able to float for a while due to the less dense than water jet fuel in the unreptured fuel tanks. She was trying ot tell me that density had nothing to do with it and that little theory didn't make sense. I tried to explain it wasn't theory, it was fact, then she flipped out and started screaming at me. Geeze I think I would have rather been on the plane.
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Postby beaky » Thu Jan 15, 2009 9:57 pm

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I was watching this live and I got in a big fight with my mom because I was trying to tell her about how the plane would be able to float for a while due to the less dense than water jet fuel in the unreptured fuel tanks. She was trying ot tell me that density had nothing to do with it and that little theory didn't make sense. I tried to explain it wasn't theory, it was fact, then she flipped out and started screaming at me. Geeze I think I would have rather been on the plane.
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Re: US AIRWAYS CRASH HAPPENING NOW

Postby Brando14100 » Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:21 pm

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I was watching this live and I got in a big fight with my mom because I was trying to tell her about how the plane would be able to float for a while due to the less dense than water jet fuel in the unreptured fuel tanks. She was trying ot tell me that density had nothing to do with it and that little theory didn't make sense. I tried to explain it wasn't theory, it was fact, then she flipped out and started screaming at me. Geeze I think I would have rather been on the plane.
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Postby BFMF » Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:42 pm

THe one time I don't watch the evening news, I miss this.... ::)
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Re: US AIRWAYS CRASH HAPPENING NOW

Postby yancovitch » Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:14 pm

the thing i really want to know is....will they be able to salvage the plane?...or is it toast?......
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Re: US AIRWAYS CRASH HAPPENING NOW

Postby Ang2dogs » Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:36 pm

BRAVO, to the Captain for saving life and limb, BRAVO to the whole crew, BRAVO job welldone [smiley=clapping.gif]
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Re: US AIRWAYS CRASH HAPPENING NOW

Postby expat » Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:25 am

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I was watching this live and I got in a big fight with my mom because I was trying to tell her about how the plane would be able to float for a while due to the less dense than water jet fuel in the unreptured fuel tanks. She was trying ot tell me that density had nothing to do with it and that little theory didn't make sense. I tried to explain it wasn't theory, it was fact, then she flipped out and started screaming at me. Geeze I think I would have rather been on the plane.
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Re: US AIRWAYS CRASH HAPPENING NOW

Postby Jeff.Guo » Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:51 am

I think we are also forgetting a few other things here. Three large air storage devices..................aft cargo, forward cargo and as it was only flying to North Carolina, a very empty center tank ,not to mention nose avionics bay and main avionics bay, AND most importantly a small pushbutton on the overhead panel that has a label under it marked "Ditching". Pushing this closes all "orifices" to the outside world, ram air, overboard vent valves, cabin pressurisation etc thus keeping water out for quite a while. Rather clever is the Airbus.


I do question how long those systems remain functional though, especially with no APU power and with the batt shut off.

My hat does go off to the pilot though, with all that fuel on board, the ditching attempt could've easily turned into complete disaster. Most pilots wouldn't have been comfortable landing a perfectly good aircraft with that much fuel, let alone ditch a unpowered one.
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Re: US AIRWAYS CRASH HAPPENING NOW

Postby expat » Fri Jan 16, 2009 5:35 am

I think we are also forgetting a few other things here. Three large air storage devices..................aft cargo, forward cargo and as it was only flying to North Carolina, a very empty center tank ,not to mention nose avionics bay and main avionics bay, AND most importantly a small pushbutton on the overhead panel that has a label under it marked "Ditching". Pushing this closes all "orifices" to the outside world, ram air, overboard vent valves, cabin pressurisation etc thus keeping water out for quite a while. Rather clever is the Airbus.


I do question how long those systems remain functional though, especially with no APU power and with the batt shut off.


They remain very functional, they are "power off closed" items.

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Re: US AIRWAYS CRASH HAPPENING NOW

Postby Brando14100 » Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:20 pm

I think we are also forgetting a few other things here. Three large air storage devices..................aft cargo, forward cargo and as it was only flying to North Carolina, a very empty center tank ,not to mention nose avionics bay and main avionics bay, AND most importantly a small pushbutton on the overhead panel that has a label under it marked "Ditching". Pushing this closes all "orifices" to the outside world, ram air, overboard vent valves, cabin pressurisation etc thus keeping water out for quite a while. Rather clever is the Airbus.


I do question how long those systems remain functional though, especially with no APU power and with the batt shut off.


They remain very functional, they are "power off closed" items.

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I was talking about this with my Business teacher today aand he asked me if there was a button like that, I told him I didn't think so. Oops. I'll tell him there is if the subject comes up again.

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Re: US AIRWAYS CRASH HAPPENING NOW

Postby Brando14100 » Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:28 pm

I just told my mom about that switch and she is still arguing with me. She thinks that it would've sunk immediatley if it hadn't been tetherd to the ships because there was water in it and that's what the news guy said. Yeah, the news guy was also holding a model of an A320 and was calling it a 737 for a while.  ::) I don't understand why people can't admit it when they're wrong.

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Re: US AIRWAYS CRASH HAPPENING NOW

Postby Brando14100 » Fri Jan 16, 2009 5:56 pm

Now they have found that both engines are missing. So, not exactly a perfecty executed ditch, but better than a cartwheel effect.

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