Rotty stirred the fire (or is it pot ? )

[Brett_Henderson]

It looks pretty good Brett.  That 430 really must sweeten the deal.  It would be really nice if there would be some way to get the GPS CDI on the VOR 1 indicator and the VOR CDI on the VOR 2 indicator.  But I've never heard of anything like that.

For a sec there, I was confused..  :-[  ..  but then made sense of that..  :D   Yeah, that would be nice, but there's only one VOR indicator output..

Nav2/VOR2.. seemed to work just fine for me.. but he said it's ornery.. so he tagged it inop (it's in rental service right now).

[Brett_Henderson]

[quote]The only thing I have to say about the corrosion repair, is that typically in airplanes, if one part is corroded, others probably are too.

[beaky]

Re: the pics...
Not a bad-looking "Worrier"...

I think my leaning towards Cessnas is due primarily to just knowing them well, but that single-door thing did always bug me.
But look at it this way: that's only one set of hinges, seals, latches, etc. to worry about servicing.

The panel is great, despite the " inop" VOR ...like you'd need two with a 430 in there. Very tidy, and the plastic, etc. looks real good for a 6K-plus-hr trainer.
And looky! You could fly NDB approaches in it!!

Speaking of the 430: WAAS could be extremely useful, I'm pretty sure there are CDIs out there that will connect to the 430, and the wx features could also be a boon, as well (although I understand your point).

It provides another "look ahead" before you can even raise Flight Watch in your destination area... definitely worth having. It's not just for skirting nasty conditions with confidence in a heavy, FIKI-equipped plane.
I've been thinking that, assuming I can't find a 140 with an IFR GPS in it, that I might get a 496, instead of a low -end (but still pricey) IFR panel-mount with no map display or wx... nothing in the regs against having a 496 turned on during IFR flight, for "situational awareness".

Flying IFR in a 140, I'd be even more limited than you in a Warrior... that XM weather could make all the difference some day.

Definitely get a 3rd-party inspection done, and be sure to order a CD of AD compliance records on this one from the FAA... only ten bucks, and worth it for peace of mind. I just ordered one on 05N; should be interesting reading... some of the 140 ADs go back to the late 40s...

BTW, how are you planning to pay for this? Got a wad of cash under the mattress, or are you thinking of financing it?

[Mobius]

It looks pretty good Brett.  That 430 really must sweeten the deal.  It would be really nice if there would be some way to get the GPS CDI on the VOR 1 indicator and the VOR CDI on the VOR 2 indicator.  But I've never heard of anything like that.

For a sec there, I was confused..  :-[  ..  but then made sense of that..  :D   Yeah, that would be nice, but there's only one VOR indicator output..

Nav2/VOR2.. seemed to work just fine for me.. but he said it's ornery.. so he tagged it inop (it's in rental service right now).

Yeah, sorry about that.  I don't really know how else to say it.  You would have to have the GPS acting like a GPS and a VOR at the same time, but I don't think that it's possible.  It just seems like it should be able to.  Maybe I should just stop.

[Brett_Henderson]

[quote][quote][quote]It looks pretty good Brett.

[Brett_Henderson]

The panel is great, despite the " inop" VOR ...like you'd need two with a 430 in there. Very tidy, and the plastic, etc. looks real good for a 6K-plus-hr trainer.

Yeah.. all-in-all, the interior is pretty nice, for rental plane, that old.

And looky! You could fly NDB approaches in it!

The NDB really IS inop.. but I'm one of those (read my avatar) guys who still thinks NDBS are useful.. and will track down what's needed to make it fly NDB approaches.

[beaky]

This is all overkill avionics for me. I have about as much interest in flying real, IMC approaches in a Warrior; as I do flying cross-country in an ultra-light  :-?  They're fine for learning to fly IFR, or keeping IFR current, or getting you on your way when ceilings and visibility are an issue... but have no business representing a stable, IFR platform. We were discussing this in another forum. With ATC vectoring me around some level 3 stuff once..  I found myself IMC; climbing at 300fpm, while holding 10 degrees nose down, with a follow-up, near instantaneuos taste of inverted flight    If I'm looking at issues beyond occasional visibilty.. I'm staying on the ground  :P

Well, if it's more than you want, sell it and get a paint job for that thing.  

I don't recall the story of your little adventure... I'm curious: did you go for an alternate, or were you pressing on to your intended destination, hoping the vectoring would work out?
The other question, of course, is whether or not you had onboard wx info on that flight...?

[Brett_Henderson]

It was a quick flight from KTOL, to KOSU. We waited on the system to pass, and actually started the flight VFR. You don't realize how quickly cloud cover can materialize, when a weather system forms. It was like watching a spookie movie. Good visual contact with the ground evaporated in an instant..