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Re: BA 777 lands short of runway at LHR

Postby C » Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:01 am

Pilot's statement in about 2 minutes on Sky, BBC N24 and possibly CNN...
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Re: BA 777 lands short of runway at LHR

Postby OTTOL » Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:07 am

As for the bank, a sudden large appilcation of power could lead to a reasonably significant amount of bank to counter-act the yaw, which at low speed would be significant.





Ever hear of Ada?

Unless you had a triple avionics failure, down to the EMER BUS, the captain could swing the thrust lever on a remaining engine back and forth like deranged monkey and an external observer would never see the slightest change in flight attitude......
.....so I loaded up the plane and moved to Middle-EEEE..........OIL..that is......
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Re: BA 777 lands short of runway at LHR

Postby C » Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:14 am

As for the bank, a sudden large appilcation of power could lead to a reasonably significant amount of bank to counter-act the yaw, which at low speed would be significant.





Ever hear of Ada?

Unless you had a triple avionics failure, down to the EMER BUS, the captain could swing the thrust lever on a remaining engine back and forth like deranged monkey and an external observer would never see the slightest change in flight attitude......   :o



Note the word could in my post, and the fact that we do not know the exact circumstances, and finally that an external observer's 45 degrees may be far far less...
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Re: BA 777 lands short of runway at LHR

Postby Saitek » Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:17 am

Was great to see the applause on the broadcast and by the looks of the press crowd there; every news agency in the world had a photographer present.

With so many tragedies and sadness in the world; it's great to see something as refreshing as that for a change.

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Re: BA 777 lands short of runway at LHR

Postby OTTOL » Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:19 am

[quote]I know we're all still speculating.. I've mentioned wind shear, and engine failure...

Is it really possible that they just ran out of fuel ? That would explain one engine quitting before the other..
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Re: BA 777 lands short of runway at LHR

Postby OTTOL » Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:28 am


Note the word could in my post, and the fact that we do not know the exact circumstances, and finally that an external observer's 45 degrees may be far far less...






Note the words deranged and monkey in my post.....

one could perceive this as edification with intentional facetiousness

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Re: BA 777 lands short of runway at LHR

Postby C » Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:09 pm

Was great to see the applause on the broadcast and by the looks of the press crowd there


I thought it was rather cringeworthy myself. I was half expecting them to start "whooping". Personally I would have preferred a more normal press conference, in a conference room. I'm sure they would too.
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Re: BA 777 lands short of runway at LHR

Postby Mictheslik » Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:51 pm

That's an interesting video of the approach cheers for the link :)

Just thought I'd share a piccie taken earlier this month ;)

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Congratulations to the pilots....however it's always a shame to see a machine like that be written off....

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Re: BA 777 lands short of runway at LHR

Postby Tom... » Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:54 pm

That's an interesting video of the approach cheers for the link :)

Just thought I'd share a piccie taken earlier this month ;)

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Congratulations to the pilots....however it's always a shame to see a machine like that be written off....

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Nice shot Mic....Judging by some of the news reports on the web i dont think it will take to the air again due to the wing damage
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Re: BA 777 lands short of runway at LHR

Postby MWISimmer » Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:58 pm

...Judging by some of the news reports on the web i dont think it will take to the air again due to the wing damage


In a post on another aviation forum there was speculation that BA, along with the help of Boeing would do their best to repair/rebuild G-YMMM to maintain their "no airframe written off" record since the 80s.. regardless of cost.
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Re: BA 777 lands short of runway at LHR

Postby expat » Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:06 pm

...Judging by some of the news reports on the web i dont think it will take to the air again due to the wing damage


In a post on another aviation forum there was speculation that BA, along with the help of Boeing would do their best to repair/rebuild G-YMMM to maintain their "no airframe written off" record since the 80s.. regardless of cost.



The would not be the first to pull that trick.

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Re: BA 777 lands short of runway at LHR

Postby FsNovice » Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:10 pm

Quantas did the same trick with a 747 of theirs that crashed, cost them $100m!!!

Full pilot interview

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7196748.stm

Latest AAIB report

http://www.aaib.dft.gov.uk/latest_news/ ... report.cfm - prelimiary of course, based on what they have as of yet
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Re: BA 777 lands short of runway at LHR

Postby MWISimmer » Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:14 pm

Anyone know what the cost to write off value is?
Is it 50% of the replacement value?
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Re: BA 777 lands short of runway at LHR

Postby Saitek » Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:42 pm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7196945.stm

Well, everything normal until 600ft and 2 miles out. Another 50ft beforehand and we could have seen a most horrific accident. Extraordinary.
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Re: BA 777 lands short of runway at LHR

Postby BuggsK100RS » Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:48 pm

Some one might wont to give BA a ring you might be able to get a cracking Sim pit on the cheap  ;)
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