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Postby Thunderbird1 » Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:48 pm

It's been a while since I've posted mostly because my real world aviation duties have taken priortity, but I'm calling on everyone on these boards who have seen the Red Barons fly to go to the link below. In a nutshell the Red Barons have been forced out of the airshow business by the Schwans food company. There is a petition at airshowbuzz.com that is trying to prevent this from happening.

Lets stand behind the Red Barons and lets get the word out to everyone.

http://www.airshowbuzz.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2247
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Re: Save The Red Barons

Postby Hagar » Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:10 am

From what I can see they have lost their sponsor. This happens & it does not mean the end of the team. Instead of organising petitions against their sponsor for the last 28 years they need to find another one. If they're as good as everyone says that shouldn't be too difficult.

The AeroSuperBatics team has had 3 different sponsors over the last 10 years. http://www.aerosuperbatics.com/
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Re: Save The Red Barons

Postby Thunderbird1 » Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:46 am

From what I can see they have lost their sponsor


Negative, Schwans owns the team and already stated they will sell all the planes and everything associtated with maintanence and give members the option to either work for Schwans or move on. It's not about sponsorship. Schwans is trying to change their advertising. Nothing in the statement that Schwans gave indicates a finanical bearing as the reason for doing away with the team.
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Re: Save The Red Barons

Postby Hagar » Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:37 am

From what I can see they have lost their sponsor


Negative, Schwans owns the team and already stated they will sell all the planes and everything associtated with maintanence and give members the option to either work for Schwans or move on. It's not about sponsorship. Schwans is trying to change their advertising. Nothing in the statement that Schwans gave indicates a finanical bearing as the reason for doing away with the team.

Sorry. I didn't realise that. If the company owns the aircraft they have every right to do what they want with them. They've had a pretty good run & I imagine they want a change of image after 28 years. Nothing lasts for ever & they're in the business of selling their product. What it needs is for another enterprising organisation to purchase the display team as a going concern, providing Schwans would allow that of course.
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Re: Save The Red Barons

Postby The Ruptured Duck » Tue Dec 11, 2007 11:24 am

It's been a while since I've posted mostly because my real world aviation duties have taken priortity, but I'm calling on everyone on these boards who have seen the Red Barons fly to go to the link below. In a nutshell the Red Barons have been forced out of the airshow business by the Schwans food company. There is a petition at airshowbuzz.com that is trying to prevent this from happening.

Lets stand behind the Red Barons and lets get the word out to everyone.

http://www.airshowbuzz.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2247

No.

I'm normally not one to go against any airshow performers, but I was just plain not impressed with these guys, AND they were the kind of pilots that complain when you touch their planes, but then complain you aren't helping them.
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Re: Save The Red Barons

Postby DaveSims » Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:46 pm

I've never had a problem with the guys, they pass through our airport quite frequently on their way to shows.  I've only seen them once and was quite impressed, just because I know what a handful that aircraft is to fly in the first place.
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Re: Save The Red Barons

Postby The Ruptured Duck » Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:32 pm

[quote]I've never had a problem with the guys, they pass through our airport quite frequently on their way to shows.
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Re: Save The Red Barons

Postby Thunderbird1 » Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:51 pm

To say the very least I'm surprised at the negative and pesamistic feedback thats been received since I posted this topic, maybe it's just a few and not the majority. I really thought that both the flight sim community and the ones involved in real world aviation stood side by side and one supported the other. I guess I made a mistake and further made a mistake in thinking more people here on these boards would support the Red Barons. Lesson learned.
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Re: Save The Red Barons

Postby The Ruptured Duck » Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:43 pm

To say the very least I'm surprised at the negative and pesamistic feedback thats been received since I posted this topic, maybe it's just a few and not the majority. I really thought that both the flight sim community and the ones involved in real world aviation stood side by side and one supported the other. I guess I made a mistake and further made a mistake in thinking more people here on these boards would support the Red Barons. Lesson learned.



If you think that just because the majority of aviation enthusiests support one thing, means I will support it, you are wrong.  But this is only because I believe what I believe and not necessarily what you believe is exactly the same.  For example, I support just about everything that AOPA supports, but not because they support it, but because my beliefs are parallel to theirs.  But there are things I may not agree with (the Barons).  I observed something, and made an opinion, don't feel bad mate(I love that word).  

Once again, don't feel bad just because I do not support them ( I take responsibility for the negativity in this post), I mean really, I'm kindof a nut anyways :P  Maybe I just had a bad experience, and am basing my opinion on that, but there will be no way to turn that opinion around now that they are gone (I once did not like white enchilladas, but that was only because I ralfed 'em up afterwards)  But whatever you do, don't push your beliefs off on me (Fred Phelps is a good example of this), or I'll go ape on you  ;)
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Re: Save The Red Barons

Postby Thunderbird1 » Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:04 pm

[quote]But whatever you do, don't push your beliefs off on me (Fred Phelps is a good example of this), or I'll go ape on you
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Re: Save The Red Barons

Postby The Ruptured Duck » Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:26 pm

[quote][quote]But whatever you do, don't push your beliefs off on me (Fred Phelps is a good example of this), or I'll go ape on you
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