Any Landing You can walk Away From...

[Nick N]

The incockpit video and humidity levels would be interesting to see though!

I was going to mention the atmospheric conditions earlier too. There was not enough information given by the 'expert' drama announcer to really make an assessment of what and why, and yes, I would really like to see the video from other angles. It would certainly give a better perspective to the reason(s) the pilot may have made the decisions.

The lack of flaps till just before touchdown reminded me of exactly how my father scared the hell out of me the first few times we ran through that together... he showed me how to loft and touch down many different ways, from soft to practically stall and drop, using the flaps and the conditions of the day... but of course we had gear too

[C]

The incockpit video and humidity levels would be interesting to see though!

I was going to mention the atmospheric conditions earlier too. There was not enough information given by the 'expert' drama announcer to really make an assessment of what and why, and yes, I would really like to see the video from other angles. It would certainly give a better perspective to the reason(s) the pilot may have made the decisions.

I was thinking more of the sweat levels! I'd have been sweating!

[Nick N]

The incockpit video and humidity levels would be interesting to see though!

I was going to mention the atmospheric conditions earlier too. There was not enough information given by the 'expert' drama announcer to really make an assessment of what and why, and yes, I would really like to see the video from other angles. It would certainly give a better perspective to the reason(s) the pilot may have made the decisions.

I was thinking more of the sweat levels! I'd have been sweating!

ROFL



I was thinking more on the lines of the thermal/air conditons over and about the runway, which in gliding can have a powerful impact on what comes next. In the Cessna on the farm I would get the feel for the changes as I approached the strip, mid-day was different that early morning in that respect.


Personally, if I had never done that before in that aircraft... and especially ANY aircraft with no gear, I would probably be soaked too, but not from sweat

A twin or small biz-jet is not a glider or a Cessna! Thats for sure


LOL

[eno]

If I remember rightly, the gear up landing was necessary because only the nose wheel deployed when the gear was lowered on approach. The pilot had this confirmed by the tower and went through the normal procedures for attempting manual deployment, all to no avail. The news footage only starts when the news helo arrives on the scene 15-20 minutes after the initial approach.

[expat]

That video looks very familiar, I think we had this discussion a while back already??

Matt

[Nick N]

That video looks very familiar, I think we had this discussion a while back already??

Matt

I have been gone for several months and just happened to come across that one by accident, no pun intended, while googling another subject.

It's something you don't see everyday and some of those situations end up in tragedy. Given how well the pilot handled the situation I thought it was a good subject to share.


Sorry if it had been posted or disscussed before.

[expat]

That video looks very familiar, I think we had this discussion a while back already??

Matt

Given how well the pilot handled the situation

Sorry if it had been posted or disscussed before.

Maybe the "experts" commentating could learn how to handle the situation too .

Don't apologise, nothing to stop a subject do a Clinton from time to time. Maybe I will open the thread about the faked/not faked F16 missile photo again


Matt

[Nick N]

That video looks very familiar, I think we had this discussion a while back already??

Matt

Given how well the pilot handled the situation

Sorry if it had been posted or disscussed before.

Maybe the "experts" commentating could learn how to handle the situation too .

Don't apologise, nothing to stop a subject do a Clinton from time to time. Maybe I will open the thread about the faked/not faked F16 missile photo again


Matt

yea, I could have done without the announcer. As my father use to use say "that was about as useless as boobs on a bull" (he used another word for boobs

[C]

Maybe I will open the thread about the faked/not faked F16 missile photo again

I will personally vapourise anyone who try's to say it's fake again.

[Xyn_Air]

I had a question about turning off the engines before landing without gear.  I thought this was done to minimize the risk of bits and pieces of prop becoming flying shrapnel.  Was this an incorrect assumption?

Thanks for any help,
~Darrin

[C]

I had a question about turning off the engines before landing without gear.  I thought this was done to minimize the risk of bits and pieces of prop becoming flying shrapnel.  Was this an incorrect assumption?

Thanks for any help,
~Darrin

I'd say that's a fair assumption. Flying onto the runway with the engines still producing power to the props wouldn't be ideal, and isn't something I'd want to do, and I'd say there would be a lot greater risk of prop failure - either a disintegrating blade or hub.

However, you could land with the engines still running with the props feathered, or as I suggested, feathering the props and cutting the engines (4 adjacent lever selections) as you pass the threshold. Even then, with the props feathered the engine would still spool over at about 5-10% rpm, but wouldn't be driving the props at all, so either way, it doesn't really matter...