Commercial pilot...?

[Brett_Henderson]

Oh gosh.. of course solo-ing won't let a pilot get far or high enough to ever need to recover from a spin.  I just think, that before you're turned loose, alone in an airplane (even in a pattern), you should know how to get it out of a spin. I mean.. if your comfy enough in a plane to fly it by yourself, but have never been in a spin (or find out a spin is something that would scare you out of piloting), it's something you should know about yourself (and an instructor should know about you) before you even get that far.

Spinning and spin recovery isn't that big a deal... it kinda boggles the mind that someone can find themselves, up in the air, in charge of an airplane, all by themselves, never having recovered from a spin.

[C]

Spinning and spin recovery isn't that big a deal... it kinda boggles the mind that someone can find themselves, up in the air, in charge of an airplane, all by themselves, never having recovered from a spin.

It would break the bank either - a basic spinning package, 1hr extra before solo? Not much at all.

[beaky]

I'd be fine with bringing back spin-recovery demonstrations, but it's hard to say if it's necessary. And one of the reasons that was taken out of the syllabus in the US was because of a fairly high rate of spin accidents on training flights; food for thought.

For me, so far, the "avoidance" method has worked well enough (haven't even stalled inadvertently in 200+ hrs of flying, although I've come close), but I really want to get some more aerobatics dual and get some spins in next time.
I once had a brave CFI during my PP training show me about 1/2 turn in a 172... that helped me understand a little.
What a job it was getting that thing to spin! Amazing that people still manage to do it by accident somehow...


Back to the OP (sorry about the drift):

The only points I will add are: don't forget you will need to get the IR in there, ideally before getting your CFI (many flight schools will not hire VFR-only CFIs), and from what I can tell, trying to plan out a flying  career beforehand does not work as well as just plugging away at those ratings and being ready to take just about any flying job.

[ATI_7500]

...'course, Plan B: Rockstar... !

Just for the drugs and chicks, eh?

[C]

I'd be fine with bringing back spin-recovery demonstrations, but it's hard to say if it's necessary. And one of the reasons that was taken out of the syllabus in the US was because of a fairly high rate of spin accidents on training flights; food for thought.

Spinning can be taught and demostrated safely in a number of aircraft. One has to question why these accidents happen with such a high rate.

[Brett_Henderson]

Spinning can be taught and demostrated safely in a number of aircraft. One has to question why these accidents happen with such a high rate.

Many-fold... The FAA stopped policing it... lazy DEs stopped asking for it... the generation of CFIs the product of that kept it going... and finally, in order to keep the ranks of new-pilots growing, everyone threw up their hands and said, "Fine.. no more spin requirements"...

It's not that big a deal either way..like Rotty said.. Most entry level planes won't spin unless you do something really stupid anyway. It just seems reflexively silly to me that you can be a licensed pilot, not ever recovering from a spin.... or even seeing it done, up close.

[Xyn_Air]

This thread scares me.  :o

[elite marksman]

Would someone be so kind as to tell Charlie the process for us American citizens? Would be nice to have a nice detailed list for this side of the pond.

[C]

Would someone be so kind as to tell Charlie the process for us American citizens? Would be nice to have a nice detailed list for this side of the pond.

Aye. If someone doesn't I'll try and educate myself - I have a vague idea, but having never had to consider it myself I'm not that familiar with the US options.

[elite marksman]

I just remembered. I know someone who's father is/was a pilot for American. I'll talk to her when I see her in a month if you haven't found someone to tell you the process yet.

[bok269]

Would someone be so kind as to tell Charlie the process for us American citizens? Would be nice to have a nice detailed list for this side of the pond.

For becoming a pilot?  I can give you a vague idea:
1. Get your licenses and ratings up to Comm/multi.
2. CFI to build hours.
3. Get hired on as a regional.  Build Turbine time, and eventually PIC time.
4. Go to a major.  Hope all goes well.

Again tat is a typical path.  and I could be wrong.  So take it with a grain of salt.

[Mobius]

This site: http://wantscheck.com/ has pretty much everything you would want to know about becoming a pilot in the US Air Force or ANG.

[Ben R]

well..im planning to join the RAF when im older..and hopefully go on to fly commercially..but it just depends..

if i cnt be a pilot, i woulda love to be and aircraft mechanic..


ben