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Postby Manbot_AMP » Thu Feb 22, 2007 1:45 am

in my way to italy i had 2 stop overs, one in indonesia and one in Vienna. the one in indonesia was as smooth as butter landing with no problems, however when we arrived at Vienna the syes were overcast with very strong winds. during aproach the plane moved alot, (this is a 777) but that didnt worry me too much, i was watching all this from my screen on the seat infront of me. what happened next froze my blood for a moment.

all was good and we were lined up onthe runway, when what i believe were strong cross winds moved the plane way off the runway,  it also seemed that the pilot had lost control. luckly they corrected this and all when well, i wanted to tell this to all of you members.

now i wana here all you're scary landing and tackoffs ( preferably real)
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Re: scary flight

Postby beaky » Thu Feb 22, 2007 7:00 am

LOL... welcome to the wonderful world of wind shear... if you think it's scary in a 777, try an approach in a Cessna 150 sometime in gusting crosswinds... :D

But it's important to remember that as long as the pilot is thinking ahead and is ready for it, and there's sufficient power available and a little room to maneuver, there's little cause for alarm. If they can't quite get lined up before they run out of runway, they can always go around and try again.

It's unlikely they really lost control at any point. Sometimes it seems that way because it doesn't help to fight the gusts too much; you have to ride it out to some extent, or you can make things worse by over-controlling.

I've been pretty lucky on airline flights, but I do recall one landing , in a 717, I think, where the crew was battling with a gusty crosswind at a fairly extreme angle on approach to KEWR. I was sitting way in the back, and I could see the fuselage twisting. I thought the baggage bins were going to start popping open... ;D

But I wasn't afraid- it was a new plane, and they're designed to "give" a little. and whoever was flying that landing did a great job- got it on the runway firmly with plenty of pavement remaining.

As for my own windy-day landings: again, I've never really been afraid, although occasionally I've been a little... uncertain now and then. ;D
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Re: scary flight

Postby Papa9571 » Thu Feb 22, 2007 7:12 am

I was on a Delta flight landing in Atlanta. We were on approach and the pilot came on with the usual announcement but this one had a slightly different twist.

"Ah folks, we're going to be landing shortly and I just wanted to say....OH S&^T....what the...."

Power was applied and we began to climb.

It seems MS ATC was working that day. They cleared another aircraft for takeoff as we were on final.

After we reached our hold altitude He came back on and apologized. He then told us waht had happeden and assured us we would not miss any connecting flights.

The second time I was on another Delta flight into Atlanta. We were on approach when power was applied and we began to climb. We then circled for close to an hour before we landed. That was the day a ValueJet DC9 caught fire on the adjoining taxiway. That was not a pretty sight to see when we landed as they were just hooking up a tractor to what was left of the aircraft to tow it out of the way.
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Re: scary flight

Postby Chris_F » Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:14 am

On final in to Puerto Rico in an MD80 (IIRC)...  At about 2000 feet the plane suddenly dropped for a good three or four seconds, and I mean a near true 0G drop.  Stuff started getting really light and moving around in the cabin, I lost contact with my seat and was held only by my belt, passengers were screaming, etc.  The plane recovered with plenty of altitude and landed without incident.  Given the weather I saw in the area I'm guessing we got caught in a severe down draft.  Had we been lower it would have been a realy problem.
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Re: scary flight

Postby Chris_F » Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:17 am

LOL... welcome to the wonderful world of wind shear...


I was on a flight that experienced something similar while on short final.  The pilot wisely decided to add power and climb out instead of attempt to get back on centerline.  IMO it was a great decision and I felt comfortable the whole time.  I would have been more concerned had he tried to stick the landing.
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Re: scary flight

Postby Jakemaster » Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:22 am

I've told my Charlotte story too many times, I can tell it again when I have more time later.

Once me and my bro were going to florida to visit our grandparents and it was raining and we touchdown HARD, bouncing at least 15 or 20 feet above the runway before settling back down.
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Re: scary flight

Postby Hagar » Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:29 am

Reminds me of the take-off from KEWR in a DC-10 "hangar queen" during a storm. First & only time I've ever been scared on an aircraft. :o
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Re: scary flight

Postby NDSP » Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:50 pm

My Grandfather has a story about landing in Reagan International (Washington DC)

He said they were on approach and they were flying through a really strong storm. He said the captain had to go around 4-5 times before being able to land. One thing he added in was that he said the first 4 times they were on approach, he said they were lead in by the ATC the wrong way (obbiously the captain musta maid an announcment), but finally on the last try, they were lead in the right way and landed.


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Re: scary flight

Postby beaky » Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:50 pm

Reminds me of the take-off from KEWR in a DC-10 "hangar queen" during a storm. First & only time I've ever been scared on an aircraft. :o


LOL! Dying in Newark... wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy. ;D
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Re: scary flight

Postby FLYING_TRUCKER » Thu Mar 01, 2007 12:51 pm

Sean...you being "uncertain"...HMMM...I don't believe that.    :)   ;)

Doug...you of all people...being scared in an airplane...NAW...I don't believe that one either.   :)    ;)

My worst flight was during the mid-summer of 1967.  I was sitting in the right seat checking out a new Captain on the 1946 Douglas DC3.  
We had just left Vancouver Intl. (CYVR), were at our cruise altitude and making a full overnight stop at Calgary Intl. (CYYC).
On board besides myself was our newest Captain, our Flight Engineer, one male Steward and eighteen tradesmen (plumbers, carpenters, electricians) all sobering up and heading back to the oil rigs of Calgary.
By all calculations we felt we should be leaving the rain behind us when the pounding started.  I was reading a copy of "Ace McCool" in a copy of "Private Pilot".  This was one of my favourite articles and one of my favourite magazines.  I was startled, I looked up and all I could see was what looked like hail or ice hitting the windscreen.  The pounding was getting harder and louder as the ice was flying off the props and hitting the aluminum sides of the aircraft just behind us.
Before I could open my mouth the aircraft rolled left almost sixty degrees, I heard several screams through the headphones as the steward lost the coffee pot and hot coffee went all over him and the flight engineer.  I instinctively leaned forward to the left and down to add carb heat as I thought we had picked up carb ice, dam, my seat was too far back, I couldn't reach anything, then the aircraft veered up and right pushing me back into the right side of my seat and banging my right arm on the cowl flap controls.  I think I was still trying to figure out what to do with this magazine as I had just purchased it.  My right arm was numb, it was lacking sensation, maybe I broke it I thought.  
The DC3 rolled down and left almost ninety degrees now pushing me forward in my seat belt, I couldn't grab the flap or gear handle on the floor on my side as I still had the magazine in my left hand, you know I must have paid three or four dollars for that magazine back then, maybe that is why I held onto it or it could have been I hadn't finished my "Ace McCool" article.
But, I could clearly see our new Captain now, yes by gosh I thought, nicely pressed white shirt, four gold stripes, wow, (mine were covered and smeared in oil), he was even clean shaven and his black hair slicked right down with brylcream (hope that is how you spell it), he didn't have enough strength to hold in opposite rudder, he was perspiring, me, I couldn't move, maybe I should have let go of my magazine.
I looked at the instrument panel, the vertical speed was pegged down, the gyros had tumbled, the airspeed was all the way in the red, the altimeter, oh oh, the altimeter, dam we were rolling and only at nine hundred feet.
Yes folks we hit that rocky hill dead on.
I remember sitting on this large wet rock, just sitting there, so I finished reading "Ace McCool".
Oh, yes we were all killed, there were no survivors, well you didn't think there would be did you?  ;D

Well guess I better mosey down to the barn and stand in the corner for a bit, I am sure there will be a few comments on this one.   ::)    ;D LMAO

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Re: scary flight

Postby ozzy72 » Thu Mar 01, 2007 4:33 pm

Nice one Doug ;D ;D ;D
My worst came from a day of practicing auto-rotations (I was in the back of the Puma) and on the way back to base the friggin' noisy parts went haywire and we had to auto-rotate into a hole in a forest about 1/10th the size of anything we'd landed in that morning. The only fun thing was watching the senior army officers we had on board trying not to puke up their bowels in terror ;D
Not a graceful landing but we got down in one piece... and more incredibly we eventually got out again without any major problems (apart from destroying part of a German forest) :o
It is amazing to see a Colonel go from pink to white to the same colour as his uniform in under 3 seconds [smiley=evil.gif]
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Re: scary flight

Postby FLYING_TRUCKER » Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:00 pm

Hi Mark
Loved to have been there for that one.  ;D

One of my sons took me up in a Bell 47 he used to rent and we did auto rotations.  I could almost walk faster than that thing could fly I think.  :)

He took me up in the Sea King over Bedford Basin in Halifax, Nova Scotia and we did auto rotations and water rescues.  He had a wonderful crew, after the flight was over they took me to an old English Pub where there had to be nearly 100 different Ales and Beers.  You got to sample one small glass until you found one you liked.  They only served one type of food and that was hot roast beef on some bun that you dipped into a sauce.  Wonderful.  :)
We have been to Halifax twice since then and my other son and his wife have no idea where they took us.

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Re: scary flight

Postby Alonso » Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:00 pm

Well... my worse experience was a landing in a LAN airlines 767 in Lima... the touchdown was a total mess...and some people really got scared... anyways it wasn't THAT scary... :o

Oh yess... now I remember... I was in an Avianca 757 in Miami and it was already possitioned and applied full throttle... 2 seconds later it stopped YOU DON'T-KNOW-HOW... and I just saw a DHC Dash landing above us... My dad got really scared ;D
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Re: scary flight

Postby Djem » Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:54 am

The scariest flight i've been on was a US airways Jetstream 31 or 41 (i think) for St. Louis to Knoxville. I was about 8 years at the time, now i'm fifteen.
We took off from Lambert-STL normally, but after around 10 or 15 minutes, the captain made an announcement and told us that there was something wrong with the right engine and we had to return to STL. To me it looked fine, spinning around and all.
But after about three minutes after he made the announcement, the engine stopped, right before my eyes. I got horribly scared of course, i had little knowledge about planes and thought we would drop straight to the ground. but, we returned to the airport and landed safely, though the pilots applied full brakes and made the fastest slowdown i've ever seen. And there, in the end of the runway, a couple of firetrucks were waiting for us. fortunately we didn't need them.

This is the only scary flight i've been on though, and i've been on many (atleast for a guy my age), around 90 flights.
You should definately try to fly the 757 once. it's like a rocket!
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Re: scary flight

Postby beaky » Wed Mar 07, 2007 12:10 pm

Sean...you being "uncertain"...HMMM...I don't believe that.    :)   ;)


Guess again... being uncertain in the air has kept me alive so far... ;)

Doug...you of all people...being scared in an airplane...NAW...I don't believe that one either.   :)    ;)

Doug's another scaredy-cat... sound policy. ;d
Not that it does you much good as a passenger... on a recent airline flight, we hit the worst turbulence I've encountered yet while in cruise... I wasn't scared, really, but I started... thinking about things. Bad things.
Nothing to do but tighten your seatbelt and hope the forecasts and PIREPs were accurate enough to warrant continuing on that course...


Great story, BTW- you gave Gann a run for his money, there. But if anybody were to survive contacting a mountain in an uncontrolled descent, it would be in a DC-3.
As a matter of fact:

http://members.tripod.com/~LAMKINS/Fron ... hText.html

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