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Big big BIG mistake...

Postby Jon H » Wed Feb 14, 2007 5:12 pm

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Re: Big big BIG mistake...

Postby RitterKreuz » Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:11 pm

crap like that happens with frightening frequency
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Re: Big big BIG mistake...

Postby Chris_F » Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:13 pm

So I'm assuming the plane simply taxi'd on top of that vehicle?  I don't see how else things could have gotten that way...
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Re: Big big BIG mistake...

Postby expat » Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:06 pm

So I'm assuming the plane simply taxi'd on top of that vehicle?  I don't see how else things could have gotten that way...



Last week I came to work, drove out onto the ramp. There was one aircraft on the ramp, a Citation, with a tug berried at end on under the left wing to a depth of about 2 meters. The wing was in the cab, but had missed the driver. Sometimes a plain picture does not give the whole story. In our case, the Citation was the ONLY aircraft of the ramp and tug and aircraft had come together. How, well luck was on holiday that day. The driver climbed in the tug and reversed out of the hanger, decided to carry on backwards to the next hanger further down the line. He took such a wide curve, that he managed to find the only aircraft out their. If it can go wrong, it will.

The worst part was that it was a visiting aircraft from another country on an over night stop. Also the Citation wing is bonded and not riveted.

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Re: Big big BIG mistake...

Postby Craig. » Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:17 pm

[quote][quote]So I'm assuming the plane simply taxi'd on top of that vehicle?
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Re: Big big BIG mistake...

Postby NDSP » Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:20 pm

Wow,

DC-9 Captain: Hey you see that in the terminal (looking into the terminal)

First Officer: Yeah, never expected that!

DC-9 Captain: Hey did you feel that?

......

"It was a good pushback cart, so sad it had to come to such a cruel, unhearted death."

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Re: Big big BIG mistake...

Postby expat » Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:44 am

Tug to DC9, "Yer, yer baby, you can do it, harder faster".  ;D

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2. And, if you have time to write the fault on a napkin and attach to it to the yoke.........you have time to write it in the tech log....see point 1.
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Re: Big big BIG mistake...

Postby RitterKreuz » Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:46 am

a more likely situation was the tug driving underneath the aircraft.

I have seen a bag loader drive up to the rear cargo door of an emb-145 (door is under an engine) and the guy turned the hydraulic lift on the bag loader on to elevate it to the level of the door... a few seconds of not paying attention he lifted the engine a good 3 or 4 degrees above normal.  ::)

I have seen a tug push a jet neatly right into some concrete barriers that became stuck under the belly of the plane.

have also seen someone use a tug that is too strong for a specific aircraft to be pushed. he hooked up to the nose gear, hit the gas and folded the nose gear up.

or what about the time when the northwest saab 340 maintenance personnel parked the aircraft on an icy ramp and ran off without chocking it... it slid into a 10 foot deep concrete ditch.

Or the Embraer mechanics who did an engine run up without following the proper procedure for setting the brakes... the aircraft accelerated into a hangar door shattering huge panes of glass that were then ingested into the engines and blasted out the back peppering men and equipment nearby.  ::)

there is video of some SAAB 340 out in africa somewhere that was loaded to its aft CG limit without ever having its tail stand installed... it is resting quite nicely on the tail with the cockpit sitting a good 30 feet up in the air at least.  :-/

Stupid Human Tricks galore.

the thing is whenever something like this happens the Ramp personnel who were servicing the aircraft have to be drug and alcohol tested and put on leave of absence until an investigation of why the incident occurred comes to its conclusions. as do the pilots, and any maintenance personnel who might have been dealing with the aircraft at the time even though they might have not even been in control of what the idiot with the tug was doing at the time. everyones life gets interrupted, everyone goes through the whole ordeal regardless of their level of involvement with something like the stories above. not to mention the financial expense of repairs, paperwork, FAA approvals, functional check flights for return to service, 40 or 50 or even 100 hours of in service monitoring by maintenance. And repeat returns to the hangar because some flight crew notices a "very slight vibration at 280 knots to 220 knots while descending in smooth air." or something like that that will liekly never be tracked down - sometimes resulting in the airplane being scrapped.  :( sad story!
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Re: Big big BIG mistake...

Postby Hagar » Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:58 am

Did anyone read the comments below the photo?

A visitor from United States posted Tue February 13, 2007:
I was speaking with an electrical engineer from NW the day after this happened. He indicated that the driver of the tug came out without any major injuries (although he was likely to lose his job). He said they were still trying to figure out exactly what happened. He told me that the plane was scheduled to be retired within 6 weeks and it is totalled, but only worth ~200k. The super tug is totalled as well, but is worth a whopping 800k!
A visitor from United States posted Thu February 8, 2007:
The story was while doing a maintance tow the tow driver stopped to[o] quick and locked the tires on slick pavement, causing the aircraft to push him in a quick fish tail, snapping the towbar and slidding the tow under the aircraft, bouncing the aircraft 10ft and then pin[n]ing the tow under its current location.
A visitor from United States posted Thu February 8, 2007:
5* because i was their to witness this scene 1st hand....what a mess
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Re: Big big BIG mistake...

Postby Jon H » Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:58 pm

Well done Hagar.

I hoped I wouldn't have to point it out.

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Re: Big big BIG mistake...

Postby RitterKreuz » Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:07 pm

yeah... i read all of that just seconds AFTER my post  ::)

good job pointing that out  ;D
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Re: Big big BIG mistake...

Postby Rocket_Bird » Sat Feb 17, 2007 8:58 pm

Yikes.... the cab in that pushtractor is crushed.  I hope no one got hurt in that incident...
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Re: Big big BIG mistake...

Postby pepper_airborne » Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:30 am

This happend too about a year ago at EHAM with KLM 747's. one of those drivers was topping 50KM/h and decided to turn his wheel, but the plane didnt turn and just kept going on. The guy was lucky to survive.
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