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Postby beaky » Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:26 am

We took off again, and headed east, with darkness closing in all around. I'll admit I knew when I should be practically on top of the airport, and was looking right at it before I turned away, then back, only to see the beacon where I'd been looking before. Interesting. It looks quite different in shadow, and yet I'd recognized it without realizing it. I suppose I thought it was just a clearing that looked like my home airport... I think the main problem is all those lights become distracting new landmarks, throwing everything out of whack when you're looking for a little patch of a field like 47N.

The sun was just dropping below the horizon when I entered the pattern at 47N off an enjoyable spiral descent from 2000 feet, still legal dusk and not too bad for me to see what was what. I was glad for the opportunity to get a taste of night flight without actually launching into the dark. Coming over the numbers, I realized that even on a new Skyhawk, the landing light wouldn't help much on a runway without lights. Hope I remember that...

Bad photo, but it gives the idea... that's 47N
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Decided to be a nice guy and top it off before parking it, and would you believe after hot-starting that sucker perfectly twice in a row, on the last attempt after topping off, I ran the battery down? Ugh. The school was closed, the shop with its APU cart was closed, and it was now quite dark. What to do? cant really leave it here, and it's a long way across the field to push a 172SP with full tanks... sigh...


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Gus suggested that perhaps with the towbar and some rope, we might carefully tow the plane behind his truck to her tiedown. I was willing to rig it up and look, and it looked good enough, so we gave it a shot. Worked out fine, especially with Tom, whose hangar is on the end just near the pump, walking alongside with a flashlight to keep an eye on things. The entire path was slightly uphill, so there was no awkward braking to do. I love it when a plan comes together... what a team!

After I secured the plane, I drove back across the field to join my assistants at Tom's hangar, where we spent a few minutes admiring the Rans S-12 Ariale he's building. Very nice work he's doing, and a terrific design. It's going to be a real fun flyer, for sure...might be airborne next summer, as he's nearly ready to mate the wings with the fuselage
But as T. pointed out: "It's 90% done, and only 90% to go."

sorry; no pictures... but I'll be back in that hangar soon- Tom doesn't want help, but he likes company when he's working on the S12

The conversation turned to Breezys... G. mentioned that he knew someone based at 47N with a Breezy, and might be able to get me up in it. Hmmm... better invest in some flying goggles.

We were all famished, so we retired to a nice little restaurant in town for some grub, along with T's girlfriend, Catalina... a very nice meal amongst good company. I offered to pay the whole tab, but T. insisted we split it. At any rate, Gus got a free meal for his trouble.
More airplane talk, of course... got home much later than I'd planned, but it was a perfect day.






BONUS PIX!! (for spotters)


Taken while waiting my turn...

Ethan's trusty 1964 150D with STOL kit, looking nice in the late afternoon sun. She's for sale... just under 4000 total hours, and he's asking $15K but might take less.  ;)

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Hadn't gotten a pic of this fine old 150 yet (I think)... great paint job.


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Commander, just... about... to...

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A Rutan creation,  obviously... somebody else can look it up. Wish it had landed at 47N, but it was just passing through.

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Cutting it a bit close in the pattern here, but no worries with 150s. As slow as they are now, they can go slower. That's my occasional mount QJ in the lead, another nice 150.


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Re: flight #138... w/pix! part 2 (last)- bonus pix

Postby FLYING_TRUCKER » Mon Dec 18, 2006 6:24 am

Some great shots there Sean.  ;)

The best way to make the transition from day to night VFR is at dusk.  That is how we were trained and  like early dawn it is a wonderful time of the day.  

The old girl and I still like the early dawn flights, with a thermos of hot tea it is a wonderful time to spend together before she gives me my list of things to do.  :-X   ::)

Like that last shot with the two C150s in the circuit, excellent.

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Postby Brett_Henderson » Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:43 am

OOps..  I spoke too soon in the first post  ...  Been there, done that many times.

When we were leaving Oshkosh, the window to get out before the Sunday air show, was closing fast. The line to take-off was so long, that they decided to extend the window. Not one to let a plane idle indefinately @ $130/hour, I shut the Cardinal down. The one thing worse than a hot-start.. is a "barely warm", re-start. I got it going, but the starter was starting to slow down.  I sure would have liked a chance to do a full run-up, make sure the plugs were good and dry. I snuck in  a quick, 1800rpm mag-check on the roll (riding the brakes in grass was fun). One of them sputtered a little, but not enough to abort. I finished the long taxi/wait/taxi/wait  EXTRA lean. Take-off power came on nice and smooth.. so no worries..
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Re: flight #138... w/pix! part 2 (last)- bonus pix

Postby beaky » Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:53 am

Some great shots there Sean.  ;)

The best way to make the transition from day to night VFR is at dusk.  That is how we were trained and  like early dawn it is a wonderful time of the day.  

The old girl and I still like the early dawn flights, with a thermos of hot tea it is a wonderful time to spend together before she gives me my list of things to do.  :-X   ::)

Like that last shot with the two C150s in the circuit, excellent.

Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug




It sure has been a long time for me; forgot how beautiful it is. And as long as there's good weather and a beacon at the home field, it's no cause for alarm when suddenly the landscape below changes dramatically into a dark void full of strange lights. Just got to use dead reckoning and keep an eye out for that green, white, green... ;D

Maybe my next fight will be at dawn... or maybe in the spring. ;D
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Re: flight #138... w/pix! part 2 (last)- bonus pix

Postby beaky » Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:58 am

Either of you guys ever towed an aircraft in that fashion before? I was unsure if it was the right thing to do, even as we very easily rolled it along.
I could have left it in the nearest vacant tiedown on that side of the field, but I could just see its owner's face if he returned that night to find the Skyhawk sitting there... and if I'd left it off in the weeds with no tie-downs, of course a freak wind would pass through that night... ::)

Just curious... Gus has 4000 hrs and also can tie a knot well (I think he's ex-Navy), so I trust his judgement,-but what do you guys think? Yea or nay?
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Postby Brett_Henderson » Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:04 am

I didn't even give the tow a second thought. That's exactly what I would have done. It's not like you tied a rope around the nose gear.. and there were two of you..

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Postby Hagar » Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:33 am

Another interesting story, well told. Some nice photos too. ;)

Decided to be a nice guy and top it off before parking it, and would you believe after hot-starting that sucker perfectly twice in a row, on the last attempt after topping off, I ran the battery down? Ugh. The school was closed, the shop with its APU cart was closed, and it was now quite dark. What to do? cant really leave it here, and it's a long way across the field to push a 172SP with full tanks... sigh...

You young chaps with your modern aeroplanes are spoiled these days. ::) If you had to hand-swing those kites you would make sure not to mess it up. Starting a hot engine should be no problem at all. That "in-between" period is worst when it's neither hot nor cold. All engines are different, even of exactly the same type, so you have to get used to their little foibles. :)

PS. Before you ask I have no experience with fuel-injected engines.
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Postby beaky » Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:04 am

Another interesting story, well told. Some nice photos too. ;)

Decided to be a nice guy and top it off before parking it, and would you believe after hot-starting that sucker perfectly twice in a row, on the last attempt after topping off, I ran the battery down? Ugh. The school was closed, the shop with its APU cart was closed, and it was now quite dark. What to do? cant really leave it here, and it's a long way across the field to push a 172SP with full tanks... sigh...

You young chaps with your modern aeroplanes are spoiled these days. ::) If you had to hand-swing those kites you would make sure not to mess it up. Starting a hot engine should be no problem at all. That "in-between" period is worst when it's neither hot nor cold. All engines are different, even of exactly the same type, so you have to get used to their little foibles. :)

PS. Before you ask I have no experience with fuel-injected engines.



True, all true... I was telling the other two guys, more than once that "I'd rather deal with carb ice than have to put up with this", but I think I can add "I'd rather have to hand-prop than deal with this, or starters, or batteries"...

Only half-serious, of course, but with a plane that's designed to be hand-propped and mags you know and trust, it's just a nice little workout, I imagine, once you learn to do it safely.
Unless it's in that weird state... I've watched the experts at ORA try again and again to coax some of those extremely old engines to life; it can be maddening sometimes.

But if anyone had suggested we try to hand-prop that Skyhawk, I'd have chased him off with the towbar. I know lots of people do it, but I think it's a bad idea to try to hand-prop a plane not intended for that method.  The higher compression than your average old-school "kite" is one issue, then of course the fact that you can't be certain that starter solenoid will behave even though you have the key on "Both" and not "Start"... I'm a coward, I guess... but I still have two hands, and I intend to keep both of them. ;)
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Postby beaky » Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:18 am

[quote]I didn't even give the tow a second thought. That's exactly what I would have done. It's not like you tied a rope around the nose gear.. and there were two of you..

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Postby Hagar » Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:19 am

Only half-serious, of course, but with a plane that's designed to be hand-propped and mags you know and trust, it's just a nice little workout, I imagine, once you learn to do it safely.
Unless it's in that weird state... I've watched the experts at ORA try again and again to coax some of those extremely old engines to life; it can be maddening sometimes.

Indeed. It frustrates me tremendously to have to stand & watch some people sweating & cursing when I can see exactly what they're doing wrong. ::) It also helps to know the aircraft intimately. Instead of struggling to start a troublesome warm engine we used to go & have a cup of tea & "leave it to sulk" for 15 minutes or so. This invariably worked like a charm.* ;)

[quote]But if anyone had suggested we try to hand-prop that Skyhawk, I'd have chased him off with the towbar. I know lots of people do it, but I think it's a bad idea to try to hand-prop a plane not intended for that method.
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Postby beaky » Mon Dec 18, 2006 2:16 pm

Doug:
Didn't think you were advocating hand-propping starter-equipped engines; it just came to mind.  ;)
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