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Postby tennm1980 » Wed Jan 04, 2006 11:45 pm

Question on some groundschooling paperwork thats confusing me, "The difference in the pressure of the airflow above the wing and the pressure of the airflow below the wing is the ____________ source of lift."
Instinct is telling me that its the "primary" source, any comments?
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Re: Private Pilots I need some help

Postby Mobius » Thu Jan 05, 2006 12:30 am

primary like you said, champion, chief, consummate, expert, finished, first, foremost, greatest, head, highest, leading, main, major, master, preeminent, premier, primary, superior, top, main, basal, basic, beginning, bottom, central, elemental, elementary, essential, first, foundational, introductory, meat-and-potatoes, original, prime, primitive, principal, radical, rudimentary, simple, three R's, ultimate, underivative, underived, underlying, capital, cardinal, chief, crackerjack, dominant, excellent, fab, first, first class, greatest, heavy, highest, hot, leading, main, number one, numero uno, paramount, prime, primo, principal, stellar, ten, top, tough, world class.

Sorry, I may have gone overboard, copied it from the thesaurus.  I would agree that it is the primary source of lift, as most general aviation, traing aircraft don't implement lifting bodies. ;) :)

Good Luck!

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Re: Private Pilots I need some help

Postby Rocket_Bird » Thu Jan 05, 2006 1:36 am

Id put primary personally... i can't remember, but i don't recall there being any special term for the differential pressure  ;D
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Re: Private Pilots I need some help

Postby beaky » Thu Jan 05, 2006 5:44 pm

I think the point of this question is to get you to not get sidetracked pondering Bernoulli's Theorem or any other such subtleties of why that differential is created; just to keep you focused on what the wing is doing. Personally, I believe that the air being forced down and back (as described by Langeweische) has just as much to do with it (if not more), but the FAA is really keen on the pressure differential and holds Bernoulli's idea as gospel, so in this case "primary" is the "right" answer.
And while it's important to do well in ground school, remember that none of that does you much good in flight. There are no pressure gauges above or below the wings, unless you count the stall warning horn- but a competent pilot knows a stall is imminent before the horn is heard.
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Re: Private Pilots I need some help

Postby Nexus » Thu Jan 05, 2006 6:34 pm

Agree with Rotty totally.

My instructor once told me "there are 3 ways to explain lift:
The popular theory - which deals with air accelerating on top of the wing

The mathematical theory: very similar to the above, but involves the idea of circulation, and the fact that equal transit times for air going above/below the wing is not correct.

The physical description: based primarily on Newton's three laws and the Coanda effect.

But I guess for PPL you just stick with the pressure differential and are happy with that  8)
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Re: Private Pilots I need some help

Postby beaky » Thu Jan 05, 2006 9:27 pm

Yep. I recommend you do what i did: learn the answers "they" want to hear, but secretly study Langeweische, who taught me more about flying than my ground instructors (who were good flight instructors and simply trying their best, to give credit where due). When I started flying on my own, his words always came to mind, whereas the official doctrine didn't seem to fit when it came to what was holding the plane up, and why it did what it did.

A quote from Stick and Rudder, which is a must for any aviator's library:

"What is wrong with 'Theory of Flight', from the pilot's point of view, is not that it is theory.... it is the theory of the wrong thing... building the airplane rather than flying it. It goes deeply-much too deeply for a pilot's needs- into problems of aerodynamics... but it neglects those phases of flight that interest the pilot most....
This whole book... is an attempt to refocus the 'Theory of Flight', away from things that the pilot does not need to know about, and upon the things that actually puzzle him while he flies."
 Learn your textbooks backwards and forwards, but check out Stick and Rudder, too.
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Re: Private Pilots I need some help

Postby RitterKreuz » Fri Jan 06, 2006 2:10 pm

Stick and Rudder is one of the most beautifly written aviation books ever. It does a wonderful job of explaining flight the way the pilot must understand it.

Not to puke tangents up all over your thread but "Beyond The Check Ride: What your instructor never taught you" by Howard Fried is another good read. I discovered it shortly after passing my CFI check ride and had considered making it required reading for my students!

I think either of these books would be a wonderful supplement to your on-going ground school.

Best of Luck!
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