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Postby Theis » Sat Sep 10, 2005 7:28 am

The new airbus A400M is Airbus latest answer to the Hercules

http://www.airbusmilitary.com/home.html
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Re: A400M

Postby Ivan » Sat Sep 10, 2005 10:49 am

copy paste pot ketlle.

An-70 -> An-7x german project -> Airbus A400.
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Re: A400M

Postby jrpilot » Sat Sep 10, 2005 10:52 am

Doesn't look like an Airbus cockpit...

I personally don't see this becoming a big seller since most people who want the Hercules already have it...and the cost to design and manifacture the A400M will be high.
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Re: A400M

Postby Sytse » Sat Sep 10, 2005 11:22 am

Nice pics though... I'd love to fly that beast once...
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Re: A400M

Postby C » Sat Sep 10, 2005 11:24 am

Doesn't look like an Airbus cockpit...

I personally don't see this becoming a big seller since most people who want the Hercules already have it...and the cost to design and manifacture the A400M will be high.


They've already got several major orders. It'll be a viable alternative to the limited capability of the Herc (due to its internal dimensions) and the very expensive C-17 (how many airforces have been able to afford that?). Completely new airframe, modern avionics, new engines: shouldn't be too bad...
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Re: A400M

Postby Craig. » Sat Sep 10, 2005 11:41 am


They've already got several major orders. It'll be a viable alternative to the limited capability of the Herc (due to its internal dimensions) and the very expensive C-17 (how many airforces have been able to afford that?). Completely new airframe, modern avionics, new engines: shouldn't be too bad...

What Charlie said. This isnt a new idea, they have been designing it for quiet a few years now, and will be very sucessful. As Charlie said, its a very good inbetween of the C17 and Herc. Looks like an Airbus cockpit to me, the screens are a little bigger for military requirements, but the same standard layout and side-stick.
As for it being a copy of some antanov or whatever, maybe, but its also a basic copy of the C130 which is god knows how old. No point going down that road, as the designs for such transports will be pretty much the same, as its the best method. High wing 4 prop. change the tail a little there ya go.
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Re: A400M

Postby FLYING_TRUCKER » Sat Sep 10, 2005 11:55 am

Nice looking piece of kit Theis ;)

Sorry I can't purchase one...it will land on my strip but won't fit in my hangar. ::)

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Re: A400M

Postby Ivan » Sat Sep 10, 2005 2:43 pm

Swept wing, 4x 10000HP turboprops, as fast as a C17 and probably better short runway performance (no spinup time)
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Re: A400M

Postby Boss_BlueAngels » Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:56 am

just FYI... in that 2nd pic it's firing off flares.  

As for takeoff performance being better than a C-17... probably, but for a jet that huge, the '17 deserves some serious respect.  Those blown' flaps really increase the performance a lot.  

If I'm not mistaken (correct me if I am wrong) the '17 can also operate out of a 3,000 foot strip.
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Re: A400M

Postby C » Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:24 am

[quote]just FYI... in that 2nd pic it's firing off flares.
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Re: A400M

Postby Felix/FFDS » Tue Sep 20, 2005 6:17 pm

Crumbso, for shame!  How DARE you presume that Airbus would stoop so low as to copy a concept?
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Re: A400M

Postby ATI_7500 » Wed Sep 21, 2005 4:29 am

The An-70 would have been the cheaper and better looking solution, but I'm not sure whether the maintenance costs are lower than those of the A400 (because of the counter-rotating props).
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Re: A400M

Postby Ivan » Wed Sep 21, 2005 6:08 am

Antonnov has even more SHP output... 13500HP or so (and that is a fuel flow limit, the engine easyly does 15000-16000HP)
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