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Drunken airline pilots sentenced to prison

Postby Fly2e » Fri Jul 22, 2005 3:33 pm

Drunken airline pilots sentenced to prison!


Two airline pilots who got behind the controls after a night of heavy drinking at a sports bar have been sentenced to prison by a judge who didn't hide his disdain, saying "What were you thinking of?"

Thomas Cloyd, 47, of Peoria, Arizona, and co-pilot Christopher Hughes, 44, of Leander, Texas, were drunk when they settled into the cockpit of a Phoenix-bound America West jetliner in 2002. They were arrested before the plane took off but after it had pushed away from the gate.

They were later fired, and were found guilty June 8 of operating an aircraft while drunk.

Cloyd was sentenced to five years in prison. Circuit Judge David Young said he had no sympathy for Cloyd, who had been on probation for an alcohol-related offense just months before his arrest.

Hughes was ordered to serve two-and- a-half years behind bars.

Prosecutors had recommended four years for Cloyd and three for Hughes, sentences that defense attorneys said were too harsh because no one got hurt.

The judge reprimanded both men: "What you did was absolutely wrong," Young said.

The pilots had been at the bar up until about six hours before their departure time; federal rules say pilots cannot drink in the eight hours before a flight. Police stepped in after screeners smelled alcohol on the pilots' breath.

Tested hours later, their blood-alcohol levels were above Florida's 0.08 percent limit for drunken driving, which includes aircraft, according to testimony. Their levels were probably much higher when they were in the cockpit, experts said.

Testimony showed that Cloyd and Hughes ran up a $122 tab and drank seven 34-ounce glasses and seven 16-ounce glasses of beer over six hours at the bar. At dinner before that, they had wine and Cloyd drank a martini, prosecutors said.

The pilots had argued at trial that they were not drunk. The also contended they were not in control of their Airbus 319 carrying 117 passengers and crew because it was being towed by a ground crew when police ordered the jet back to the gate.

Prosecutor Hillah Katz called that argument "an insult."

At the sentencing, the pilots' attorneys said their clients had taken steps to fight their alcoholism and asked the judge to be lenient.

Cloyd's lawyer said the pilot was having marital problems before his arrest and was still distraught by the death of his father in a plane crash years earlier.

Hughes' family declined to comment while leaving the courthouse. When reporters asked Cloyd's wife, Debbie, what she thought of the sentence, she would only say: "Haven't you people had enough?"


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Former co-pilot Christopher Hughes, left, and pilot Thomas Cloyd at the courtroom.
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Re: Drunken airline pilots sentenced to prison

Postby beefhole » Fri Jul 22, 2005 3:48 pm

Yeah, was posted a while back... really makes you wonder if a night of drinking is really worth throwing away a dream job, a lifetime of training and thousands of dollars spent on flight training. ::)

After careful consideration, I'm relatively sure it isn't.
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Re: Drunken airline pilots sentenced to prison

Postby jrpilot » Fri Jul 22, 2005 6:04 pm

pretty harsh sentencing if you ask me...I mean someone else can get a DUI an  just be fined.

But yeh why waste your career on something so dumb.
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Re: Drunken airline pilots sentenced to prison

Postby Craig. » Fri Jul 22, 2005 6:11 pm

I mean someone else can get a DUI an  just be fined
yeah but most dont have 130+ lives in their hands. Let alone the number on the ground
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Re: Drunken airline pilots sentenced to prison

Postby beaky » Fri Jul 22, 2005 6:47 pm

They should've gotten more time just for having the unmitigated gall to point out that they weren't in the air at the time their condition became apparent to authorities...!! Katz was right; that argument borders on legal contempt.
 Had I been a passenger on that flight, I'd be ready to knock their damn heads together. I don't care how experienced a drinker somebody is, that's just not smart, showing up for a trip so soon after a big night out. Sure, they probably got a little sleep; I'm usually okay after 4 hrs of shuteye; it's not the six-hour interval that bothers me in this case (even though it's technically illegal to have even one drink within 8 hrs). But not after too much beer. How much beer is too much 6 hours (or even 8 hrs) before a flight? How about enough that you still reek of beer? And Cloyd had a booze-related offense on his record!? What the- !!??
 Airlines should bounce anybody who's gotten into that kind of trouble, IMHO. And there are dozens of pilots waiting for any given pilot's job; another reason these two should've been more careful.
I just don't feel sorry for them, and I'm glad somebody broke the "code of silence"- they may have saved many lives.
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Re: Drunken airline pilots sentenced to prison

Postby RatherBeFlying » Sun Jul 24, 2005 8:40 pm

I can not search for any more words to describe those two, except "pathetic".
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Re: Drunken airline pilots sentenced to prison

Postby JBaymore » Sun Jul 24, 2005 10:16 pm

RatherBeFlying,

Coming from a professional......... your single word is enough.  :)

It boggles the mind................

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Re: Drunken airline pilots sentenced to prison

Postby beefhole » Sun Jul 24, 2005 10:57 pm

In pilot's defense, the majority of commercial pilots won't take a single drink within 24 hours of a flight.  These guys are just adding to the stereotype ::) Even I couldn't resist making a joke when I saw a bar, serving alcoholic beverages, literally right next to the gate in Philly.  

"Look, mom, the pilot's lobbying finally paid off!" :P
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Re: Drunken airline pilots sentenced to prison

Postby t_alexander21 » Wed Jul 27, 2005 10:39 am

It's an A319....didn't the prosecutors ever hear of fly-by-wire? I mean all they had to do was push the throttle detents up to FLEX and they'd be off, the Bus would take care of itself.  ::)
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Re: Drunken airline pilots sentenced to prison

Postby Nexus » Wed Jul 27, 2005 11:12 am

What does FBW and the autothrust system have in common?  ???
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Re: Drunken airline pilots sentenced to prison

Postby beefhole » Wed Jul 27, 2005 3:26 pm

[quote]What does FBW and the autothrust system have in common?
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Re: Drunken airline pilots sentenced to prison

Postby jrpilot » Wed Jul 27, 2005 3:40 pm

[quote]It's an A319....didn't the prosecutors ever hear of fly-by-wire? I mean all they had to do was push the throttle detents up to FLEX and they'd be off, the Bus would take care of itself.
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Re: Drunken airline pilots sentenced to prison

Postby beefhole » Wed Jul 27, 2005 4:18 pm

Do sarcasm receptors still exist?
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Re: Drunken airline pilots sentenced to prison

Postby t_alexander21 » Wed Jul 27, 2005 5:59 pm

I guess you missed the sarcasm...
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