First Aerobatics!

[beaky]

Three was interesting enough for me, thank you very much!:P
Those of you who've yanked and banked in jets: g-suit or no g-suit? I'm curious about how gnarly 5+ gee would be without one (but not eager to experience it!).

[C]

Around 5 - 5 1/2 is the most I've pulled without a G suit. Its not entirely comfortable, but as long as you're straining against it (imagine being constipated an pushing!), you should be able to keep the blood somewhere in the vicinity of your brain! For prolonged periods without a G suit, 4G is more comfortable and seems a fairly standard G for simple aerobatics

[|| Andy ||]

Thats good to hear 9-comfortable!!!!!!!!  :o

[C]

[quote]Thats good to hear 9-comfortable!!!!!!!!

[Hagar]

We pulled 5G on my advanced aerobatic lesson on the Extra 300 in my avatar. I have a certificate to prove it & the instructor seemed very impressed. He told me this was the maximum allowed on a first lesson & I didn't argue. I didn't think this was bad for an old codger & I just noticed my vision being affected. Must admit I forgot to strain against it as we had been shown before taking off so I'm sure I could have taken more without too much trouble. I can't remember how much G was involved but I found the pressure of the G-suit on my thighs & lower body when pulling out of an almost vertical sonic dive at 20,000 feet extremely painful. It was almost as much as I could stand, even as a young fit lad of 16, & I was glad when it stopped. We then climbed back up to 43,000 & did it again. I'm a glutton for punishment.

I prefer aerobatics involving positive G although I like aileron rolls. I'm none too happy hanging upside-down for any length of time with only the straps holding me in. My highly experienced instructor (ex Red Arrow & now chief flying instructor at RAF Barkston Heath) said he agreed with me.

[ozzy72]

Odd I prefer negative Gs personally Doug, I like positive Gs but floating around in your straps is fun

[Hagar]

Odd I prefer negative Gs personally Doug, I like positive Gs but floating around in your straps is fun

There speaks a man who leaps out of perfectly airworthy aeroplanes for fun. I rest my case.

[beefhole]

5 Gs without a suit for me too.  As Charlie said, so long as you're really straining, you shouldn't black out too bad.  However, if you do it a lot, you can get a monster headache.

My fighter pilot instructor also advised me not to pull negative Gs, seems like a lot of guys don't like 'em too much.  Can't imagine why, you can just eat again when you get back on the ground.

[Commie]

I prefer aerobatics involving positive G although I like aileron rolls. I'm none too happy hanging upside-down for any length of time with only the straps holding me in. My highly experienced instructor (ex Red Arrow & now chief flying instructor at RAF Barkston Heath) said he agreed with me.

I agree with you as well

And Charlie, how did you manage that?

[C]

And Charlie, how did you manage that?

That's low level turbulence for you. Bloody painful!

[Mynameisnemo]

First aerobatics for me was in a SNCAN Stampe sv4c, with a friend of mine,
we went out to burscough in the uk and i had my first taste of aerobatics:
loops
inverted loops
barrel rolls
i call it a flick barrel roll, (whee u pull up and then rotate 360 degrees)
stall turns
Wing overs

bareing in mind the aircrafts g limits was +6.5g  and - 5.00g. he pulled a 4 g loop and a -2 g inverted loop, when i finally had controlls handed to me i pulled a loop right on the aircrafts limits and then the same with an inverted loop,

btw this was with out a g suit.

[|| Andy ||]

-5 is very uncomftable....
and can cause serious damage, can it not? (for a long time)

[C]

-5 is very uncomftable....
and can cause serious damage, can it not? (for a long time)

If you call bursting blood vessels inside your head (eyes, brain, nose) serious damage, I suspect the answer would be "yes"

[Boss_BlueAngels]

Here's the beauty I'm going to be learning aerobatics in this summer...

http://www.bruceair.com/images/Extra300 ... 00_003.jpg

Oh yeah, that's gonna flippin' ROCK!  

Three full lessons including different spins, rolls, loops, cuban 8's and a few tumbles.  

As for roller coasters... bring 'em on man!  I've been on every ride on top of the Stratosphere (except the new one... but I'm going there this August, so I'll go on that too).  Nevertheless the ones on the stratosphere totally freaked me out as I'm horribly scared of heights... the only real reason I went on them was to say I did it, and I was on the highest amusement ride in the world.

[CODY614]

[quote] I went up as a passenger in the decathlon that my flying club uses and we did some loops and rolls etc.