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Postby dakota-flyer » Thu Feb 24, 2005 10:04 am

There's a really good article on the A380 (today only) at www.howstuffworks.com.

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Re: A380

Postby Felix/FFDS » Thu Feb 24, 2005 12:13 pm

Like the bumblebee and the 747, they're it's so big and ugly the Earth rejects them
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Re: A380

Postby Nexus » Thu Feb 24, 2005 5:33 pm

Like the bumblebee and the 747, they're it's so big and ugly the Earth rejects them



Isn't that how helicopters fly  ???  ;D
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Re: A380

Postby Saratoga » Thu Feb 24, 2005 10:27 pm

I dunno but I hate the bloody '380.

747's all the way! Nothing against Airbus though, the A-320 I fly is a magnificent peice of work!
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Re: A380

Postby Nexus » Thu Feb 24, 2005 10:34 pm

You either hate or love the A380.  :)
Granted, it's not a beauty queen, but a truly fantastic wonder of modern engineering. Cant take that away.
Cockpit will be even more state of the art than the A320 you fly, and the A320 makes the 737NGs look jurassic  ;D
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Re: A380

Postby Saratoga » Thu Feb 24, 2005 10:36 pm

Yes, that cockpit, now that I do like. It's not that it's a bad airliner. But putting that many people in one airplane, we don't need another Tenerife. It's just a scary thought, one passing around airline pilots right now.
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Re: A380

Postby Nexus » Thu Feb 24, 2005 10:48 pm

I love Airbus and their cockpits. Have a couple of friends who flies them in europe so I'm always begging them to bring some nice manuals when I meet them  ;D

though I wonder why the DDRMI is always INOP?
Can you shed anylight on that?
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Re: A380

Postby Soggy » Sat Mar 05, 2005 10:29 pm

   Being a resident of Washington ST. (Boeing country). So although The A-380 is an impressive aircraft I can't seem to like it. Add in the whole subsides thing and I really wouldn't be upset to see Airbus go up in flames, weather financialy or physicaly dosn't matter to me ;D.

   Now as far as stratigy goes I think the 7E7/787 is a far better move. 747 sales have been droping for years now while small/medium sales have been going up (ignoring the wrench 9/11 threw in all aircraft sales) and with only 6 airports in the us capable of taking the A-380 and not many more looking to upgrade, where as the 787 can operate anywhere....well you do the math.

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Re: A380

Postby Saratoga » Sat Mar 05, 2005 11:18 pm

Thank you Soggy, I am with you. I find far more interest in the 787, and would be much happier flying it than the A-380, no matter the paycheck size. But I love anything Boeing.
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Re: A380

Postby Nexus » Tue Mar 08, 2005 6:38 am

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Re: A380

Postby Saratoga » Tue Mar 08, 2005 12:15 pm

I honestly don't think it will sell well. A lack of routes to the US will make it even less valuable to those who do buy it.

I am impressed they managed to do that 1:30 evacuation certification though.
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Re: A380

Postby C » Tue Mar 08, 2005 1:56 pm

I honestly don't think it will sell well. A lack of routes to the US will make it even less valuable to those who do buy it.


I'm pretty sure the Asian market alone could probably support the A-380 until it make a profit. I think ordres wise they're somewhere between 1/3 and 1/2 of the way there - I think the figure quoted was around 300...
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Re: A380

Postby Saratoga » Tue Mar 08, 2005 4:10 pm

Ya, but that's just to break even. Then they need some sort of profit to justify it.
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Re: A380

Postby C » Tue Mar 08, 2005 5:17 pm

Ya, but that's just to break even. Then they need some sort of profit to justify it.


As I said - that was just the Asian market. I don't expect to see many more orders at all this year - but next year in particular I expect Singapore Airlines may be persuaded to let one of their A-380s appear at all the big European trade shows (Farnborough, Paris, Berlin, and even possibly the Royal International Air Tattoo) where there will be a serious sales push amongst all the hospitality tents... Once its flying it will be a lot easier to sell.
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Re: A380

Postby Saratoga » Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:19 pm

Well this is the part where we just sit back and watch eh?

Since it will be a good while before either the A-380 or the 787 is flying, we can really only wait and see. Then we can banter some more over which is better. ;)
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